Ford Bronco to debut on OJs birthday.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

Exactly, I've never seen Jeeps towing anything. Maybe those cycle trailors or small uhaul type, but I don't think Ford went into this thing thinking about towing, they have an entire fleet of F-150/250/350/450/550/650/750's that can handle all the towing needs that come about, and HD Vans, and even Rangers can do some light towing if need be.
The new Broncos are for having fun in the sand, mud, rocks type of vehicles and to compete with the Jeeps that have a strong hold on that segment of the market.

yes everybody has so much choo choo cowskins that they can buy a tow rig just to pull their new bronco, base camp (or boat), and orvs out to the camp grounds. Or even emergency towing 4300 lbs back to civilization, which seems risky on 3500lb cap and turbos

[Rick Modena]

The tow rating isn't a function of torque/power in this case. It probably has more to do with the offroad suspension design...very similar to how a raptor has a much lower tow rating than many of the lower model f150s.

Exactly, I've never seen Jeeps towing anything. Maybe those cycle trailors or small uhaul type, but I don't think Ford went into this thing thinking about towing, they have an entire fleet of F-150/250/350/450/550/650/750's that can handle all the towing needs that come about, and HD Vans, and even Rangers can do some light towing if need be.
The new Broncos are for having fun in the sand, mud, rocks type of vehicles and to compete with the Jeeps that have a strong hold on that segment of the market.

[Big A]

The tow rating isn't a function of torque/power in this case. It probably has more to do with the offroad suspension design...very similar to how a raptor has a much lower tow rating than many of the lower model f150s.

As well as the much shorter wheelbase.

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[Ruffdaddy]

Until somebody try's to tow anything. 3500lbs is a little low considering today's vehicle weights, or pulling a glamping trailer with some orv's

The tow rating isn't a function of torque/power in this case. It probably has more to do with the offroad suspension design...very similar to how a raptor has a much lower tow rating than many of the lower model f150s.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

Personally, I think 300 hp is plenty for off-road use, but I won't mind a bit if Ford decides to flex its muscles a little bit to put/keep Jeep in its place. I think the competition over the next several years should make both better

Until somebody try's to tow anything. 3500lbs is a little low considering today's vehicle weights, or pulling a glamping trailer with some orv's

[BLAKE]

There will also be a run on vinyl graphics so that the converted Jeep people can name their new rides.

Dibs on a Cyber Orange one with "Orange Juice" on it.

[Rick Modena]

That's a pretty big deal, considering how brand-loyal they are, as a whole. I mean, they're gonna have to change their cell phone cases, coffee mugs, half of their T-shirts, bed sheets, shower curtains, get new camping chairs and umbrellas, etc.

ahahahahaahaha!

[cool cat]

There will also be a run on vinyl graphics so that the converted Jeep people can name their new rides.

[BLAKE]

lol!

I giggled too.

[cool cat]

that's a pretty big deal, considering how brand-loyal they are, as a whole. I mean, they're gonna have to change their cell phone cases, coffee mugs, half of their t-shirts, bed sheets, shower curtains, get new camping chairs and umbrellas, etc.

lol!

[jluv]

Right now it’s just a concept car. The thing is, Jeep does concepts all the time at Easter Jeep Safari in Utah. However they never actually build them. IMO, this Hemi Wrangler is one of the un-shown concepts from EJS 2020.

Jeep hasn’t said whether or not the Hemi Wrangler will actually go into production. If it does, you know Ford will throw a big engine into the Bronco to stay on par.

Supposedly, the 6.4 Hemi is extremely likely to happen. It's estimated at 450/450. I bet it'll be some special edition model with an extra $25k premium tacked on. And do they plan to beef up the drivetrain on the Wrangler so it can handle that without falling apart? If so, that'll drive up the cost even more.

Ford won't need to throw a big engine in to compete. They could just use the existing high-ouput 3.5 Ecoboost offered in the 2021 F-150. That thing makes 450/510, and will certainly get better mileage.

While I think the 2.7L is more than sufficient...theres no way ford doesn't plan a 3.5 high performance version. Hopefully they're also planning an electric version as well.

There are a lot of rumors of a hybrid for the 2022my. I'd love to see the hybrid from the Lincoln Aviator with nearly 500HP.

They are supposed to offer a 3.5 EB Hybrid called the "Powerboost" for next year's F150, and that thing is expected to make 470/525. My guess is they'll start offering that in the Bronco, at some point.

Personally, I think 300 hp is plenty for off-road use, but I won't mind a bit if Ford decides to flex its muscles a little bit to put/keep Jeep in its place. I think the competition over the next several years should make both better, but it's already interesting to see how many Jeep owners are praising the Bronco, and talking about making the switch. That's a pretty big deal, considering how brand-loyal they are, as a whole. I mean, they're gonna have to change their cell phone cases, coffee mugs, half of their T-shirts, bed sheets, shower curtains, get new camping chairs and umbrellas, etc.

[Sgt Beavis]

While I think the 2.7L is more than sufficient...theres no way ford doesn't plan a 3.5 high performance version. Hopefully they're also planning an electric version as well.

There are a lot of rumors of a hybrid for the 2022my. I'd love to see the hybrid from the Lincoln Aviator with nearly 500HP.

[Sgt Beavis]

Yeah I have a buddy with a 2015 (I think) and that thing is unstoppable off road.

I don’t keep up with all the Jeep news, but last year they had a messy recall about bad frame welds on 2018/2019’s. Plus the death wobble that just comes with Jeeps.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopni...1829551649/amp

That death wobble is no joke. I've never owned a Jeep but a close friend has a highly modified Jeep and it's done the death wobble countless times. I've sucked some serious seat cushion up my ass when it happens.

Yea, that was called the CrewChief. Being a former Army UH1H Crew Chief, I was sold. Of course I ended up buying a Raptor instead.

Yeah I might have bought the M715/Gladiator looking version of the truck they had. I was disappointed when the final version came out.

[Big A]

While I think the 2.7L is more than sufficient...theres no way ford doesn't plan a 3.5 high performance version. Hopefully they're also planning an electric version as well.

Silent wheeling up over a high mountain pass sounds intriguing.

[Ruffdaddy]

While I think the 2.7L is more than sufficient...theres no way ford doesn't plan a 3.5 high performance version. Hopefully they're also planning an electric version as well.