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  • #91
    Also https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...pared-for-cold

    Pasting b/c paywall


    Texas Was Warned a Decade Ago Its Grid Was Unready for Cold

    By Ari Natter and Jennifer A Dlouhy
    February 17, 2021, 1:55 PM CST Updated on February 17, 2021, 3:41 PM CST

    Grid regulators investigated cold snap in 2011 that cut power

    Federal recommendations to avoid repeat incident went unheeded


    Federal regulators warned Texas that its power plants couldn’t be counted on to reliably churn out electricity in bitterly cold conditions a decade ago, when the last deep freeze plunged 4 million people into the dark. They recommended that utilities use more insulation, heat pipes and take other steps to winterize plants -- strategies commonly observed in cooler climates but not in normally balmy Texas.“ Where did those recommendations go, and how were they implemented?” said Jeff Dennis, managing director of Advanced Energy Economy, an association of clean energy businesses. “Those are going to be some pretty key questions.”

    As investigators probe the current power crisis in Texas, which has left millions of people without power or a promise of when it will be restored, questions are sure to be raised about how the state responded to the urgings from the 2011 analysis, issued by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and the North America Electric Reliability Corporation, which sets reliability standards.

    The February 2011 incident occurred when an Arctic cold front descended on the Southwest, sending temperatures below freezing for four days in a row. The result was disastrous. Equipment and instruments froze, forcing the shutdown of power plants and rolling Moreover, some of the same equipment, the report noted, had failed during previous cold snaps. One in December 1989 prompted the state’s grid operator to resort to system-wide rolling blackouts for the first time.

    “Many generators failed to adequately apply and institutionalize knowledge and recommendations from previous severe winter weather events, especially as to winterization of generation and plant auxiliary equipment,” the 2011 report said. The failures have already spurred a tangle of finger-pointing, with Texas Governor Greg Abbott calling on leaders of the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, the state’s grid operator, to resign.

    Representatives of Ercot did not respond to emailed questions asking specifically about why key recommendations from 2011 went unheeded. But asked about the need for more weatherization in news conferences Tuesday and Wednesday, Ercot officials said that while it has called for companies to harden their facilities, it can’t force them to do so. Power generators have voluntary guidelines to follow and already have a financial incentive to keep plants running during cold snaps when prices spike, Dan Woodfin, Ercot senior director of system operations, told reporters Tuesday.

    “There aren’t regulatory penalties at the current time” for not complying with the weatherization guidelines, Woodfin said. A state law enacted after the 2011 freeze authorized the Public Utility Commission of Texas to require power companies to disclose their weatherization efforts. But the state has not gone further in mandating the precautions. Some steps were taken to harden assets after 2011, and more will probably be spurred by this storm, said Alan Scheller-Wolf, a professor of operations management at Carnegie Mellon University’s Tepper School of Business. But economic factors -- including how much consumers will tolerate in the form of higher electricity prices -- will play a role in those decisions.

    Separate Grid
    “Are you going to winterize if you don’t get your money back?” Scheller-Wolf questioned. “The Texas industry values less regulatory mandates and they value having their separate detached power grid, so I would find it unlikely that they are going to hit their companies with a raft of regulation.” Power companies have little incentive to make investments in winterization they may not recoup, said Adrian Shelley, Texas office director of the advocacy group Public Citizen.

    In the 1989 storm, wind chills reached 14 degrees below zero in Texas, forcing power plants to operate below capacity or fail to start altogether. And after that storm, as with the 2011 episode, regulators issued a slate of recommendations aimed at improving winterization. “These recommendations were not mandatory, and over the course of time implementation lapsed,” FERC and NERC said in their 357-page report in 2011. “Many of the generators that experienced outages in 1989 failed again in 2011.” The report recommended dozens of changes for lawmakers, regulators and power plants in the southern U.S. Among them: wider adoption of reliability standards to harden power plants and related equipment against the cold. Wind barriers, better insulation and heating systems could be installed, for example. Similar steps are already taken to protect power plants and wind farms in reliably colder climates, from Norway to Canada.

    Arctic Blast
    Southwestern power regulators should “prepare for the winter season with the same sense of urgency and priority as they prepare for the summer peak season,” NERC and FERC warned. The failures this week underscore how much work still needs to be done.

    Wind farms were paralyzed as rain and plummeting temperatures locked up turbines. Frozen instruments triggered shutdowns at some natural gas and coal plants. Natural gas flows were pinched as wells froze shut and supplies were diverted to home heating instead of power plants. Icy water even briefly took a nuclear plant in south Texas offline. The unusual nature of this storm -- with cold temperatures and winds buffeting plants -- is also a factor, Ercot’s Woodfin said. “It’s been more severe than anything that’s happened before,” Woodfin said in a call Wednesday.

    He cited freezing moisture in instrumentation lines as well as problems with trucked-in deliveries of water to one plant Wednesday morning.There are myriad reasons Texas has seen outages, but many of the failures are likely tied to simply being unprepared for extreme cold weather -- the same kind of problems highlighted in 2011, said Joshua Rhodes, a research associate at the University of Texas at Austin’s Webber Energy Group. The current Arctic blast -- which caused temperatures to fall two degrees below zero in Dallas on Tuesday -- is far worse than 2011. For Texas grid operators and power generators, the question going forward will be whether they take steps to deal with the next bad winter storm.

    “It’s never happened before,” Rhodes said. “But now it has happened, so we’re going to have to figure out do we plan for this? If so it will probably be more expensive.”

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      • #93
        Matt, just wanted to give you the kudos you deserve man. You’ve been carrying this site with well informed, factual, non bullshit data for years. Good on you.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
          Honestly I think the description as experts is probably a stretch.
          Originally posted by racrguy
          What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
          Originally posted by racrguy
          Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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          • #95
            Whatever genius up here decided a black out was good for the water treatment plant. Sherman water is jacked up now.

            "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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            • #96
              Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
              Whatever genius up here decided a black out was good for the water treatment plant. Sherman water is jacked up now.

              https://www.kxii.com/2021/02/17/city...e-threatening/
              I would say whomever was in charge of the backup system for the WTP that wasn't ready is the one people should be really upset with.

              And seriously, they interview a woman with 3 kids about her difficulty without water but she has power and heat? Get a life!

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              • #97
                Originally posted by juiceweezl View Post
                I would say whomever was in charge of the backup system for the WTP that wasn't ready is the one people should be really upset with.

                And seriously, they interview a woman with 3 kids about her difficulty without water but she has power and heat? Get a life!
                Yes, the wah sponge...GMAFB. And yes, ball dropped by the WTP and whatever backup they're alluding to. And/Or bad coordination with Oncor.
                "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
                  I came across that NERC report today

                  Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
                  Originally posted by Leah
                  Best balls I've had in my mouth in a while.

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                  • #99
                    We went 48hrs without electricity in Katy. It came back on this am around 0900, then out again at 1800 for 4hrs. Oh, and cell service went out with the electricity.
                    Was a cold, boring 2 days. Temp in house got down in 30s. [emoji849]

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                    • Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                      You should have made this your first post and saved everyone the dance


                      I’m surprised he didn’t give a lecture on Poiseuille’s Law.

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                      • In total I was out of power in cleburne for about 2 days. Good thing I was well prepared or it might've got a little cold. Back on now though.
                        WH

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                        • I wonder, in their zeal to increase rates to the 9K limit of the "ERCOT gods" (small g),
                          things got away from the "smart people". GREED, money and children appear
                          to be the motivators of the current crop of leaders!

                          We have discovered that those that "rule" us, have to pay (bribe) large sums of money
                          to get their stupid and lazy kids in a university.

                          Which of their buddies made all the money from this FU?
                          But, someones brother in law needs a job, because
                          "We need another investigation" till us lowly voters
                          forget about another failure of the ruling class!

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                            • Power back on since 5:41 pm yesterday. Never really had a water issue, except hot water would only come on when power was restored, our TWH is gas, but the head unit that powers it needs power to operate. Some faucets were frozen but at least the main kitchen sink had running water. Our home is new so they used PEX lines for all the water lines and so far they seem to be holding on.
                              We faired better than most...
                              Originally posted by Silverback
                              Look all you want, she can't find anyone else who treats her as bad as I do, and I keep her self esteem so low, she wouldn't think twice about going anywhere else.

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                              • Originally posted by Fordblue625 View Post
                                Matt, just wanted to give you the kudos you deserve man. You’ve been carrying this site with well informed, factual, non bullshit data for years. Good on you.
                                I concur Captain Kirk, thanks Matt.

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