F150 Lightning

[bcoop]

It just illustrates what I have been saying on here, until the battery situation gets better this isn't really a solution.

This thing will be great for driving around town for deliveries and for commercial fleets. But for over the road, forget it. They said it can tow 10,000 pounds. I bet it goes less than 100 miles doing that. Then it will take 45 minutes to charge up again. The charging time alone makes it a complete non starter for anyone who pulls anything a reasonable distance.

The price is surprisingly low and they said that the batteries take less cobalt. Those are both positive things.

China (and some US startups) are moving towards a quick change battery swap out vs charging stations.

It sounds like a neat idea, but a logistical nightmare with so many manufacturers, and no standardized batteries. I expect standardization will become a thing before too long.

[Sean88gt]

Looking forward to other names that Ford can co-opt!

[Gasser64]

... Towing is an issue and will be for awhile with electric cars. But for the other 99% of people who never or maybe once a year tow something this setup will be fine. 2-300 miles of range is plenty for most people.

This. Who gives a fuck about towing. Use it for what it's made for. I mean... it's a lightning..

[Rick Modena]

Yeah that new F-150 E, is cool and lots of new tech, but they ain't going to fuck with the looks, why change too much when it's the best selling truck around. I like the towing, the range, the option to generate power to your home, the Frunk.
But I definitely agree with you guys, make a Single/Extended Cab performance Lightning version
Though it beats that peice of shit Tesla is calling a truck.

[Craizie]

Just not good looking to me...none of the electric vehicles are.

You old.

[Murph Tang]

Just not good looking to me...none of the electric vehicles are.

[Sgt Beavis]

The electric F150 would seem to be well suited for a concrete Cowboy or urban Cowboy.

That would be the thing that would make me disregard it. I need an offroader just to get to my property.

[The King]

The electric F150 would seem to be well suited for a concrete Cowboy or urban Cowboy.

[Craizie]

Also, I think Teslas new battery tech is going to start rolling out in their vehicles next year.

Musk said Tesla achieved this breakthrough by removing the tab, a part of the battery that forms a connection between the cell and what it is powering. These new tabless cells, which Tesla is calling 4860 cells, will give the company’s EV batteries five times more energy capacity, make them six times more powerful, and enable a 16 percent range increase for Tesla’s vehicles. The tabless cells were among the first announcements from Tesla’s Battery Day.

[kingjason]

They say a model X cost about $15 to fully charge on average. I believe it has a 360 mile range. It's a 100kWh battery if you want to take your elect rates and figure it out.

Interesting. That's not too bad and my rates are currently really good.

[Craizie]

I haven't looked at anything other than Zero and KTM motorcycles really, but how much electricity does it take and cost to charge sayyyy a Tesla VS the cost of gas in a similar sized ICE car? People act like electricity is free. I have seriously considered the KTM E-Freeride just for the lack of maintenance. Zero has some cool street bikes also.

They say a model X cost about $15 to fully charge on average. I believe it has a 360 mile range. It's a 100kWh battery if you want to take your elect rates and figure it out.

[kingjason]

You should save more than enough to replace the batteries via fuel.

I haven't looked at anything other than Zero and KTM motorcycles really, but how much electricity does it take and cost to charge sayyyy a Tesla VS the cost of gas in a similar sized ICE car? People act like electricity is free. I have seriously considered the KTM E-Freeride just for the lack of maintenance. Zero has some cool street bikes also.

[yellowstang]

It just illustrates what I have been saying on here, until the battery situation gets better this isn't really a solution.

This thing will be great for driving around town for deliveries and for commercial fleets. But for over the road, forget it. They said it can tow 10,000 pounds. I bet it goes less than 100 miles doing that. Then it will take 45 minutes to charge up again. The charging time alone makes it a complete non starter for anyone who pulls anything a reasonable distance.

The price is surprisingly low and they said that the batteries take less cobalt. Those are both positive things.

If you tow a generator and hook it up to charge the vehicle while driving can you drive forever?

[jluv]

Ya, I bet that thing won’t make it 100 feet with a dozen 18s and eleventy-meelion jiggawatts banging around like pissed off gorillas in the back. But I still want to try it.

Or... tons and 40s.

[Craizie]

Shit, your average electric owner is not going to be throwing the gas savings money into a pickle jar labeled "New battery fund". Instead, they're going to buy starbucks/netflix/disney plus/motor trend on demand/hookers/blow/cowskin rugs, and when the battery shits the bed, they're still going to be too broke to buy one.

I get that. Every dollar someone saves on a deal they think they can spend it elsewhere. I'm just saying that in practice, you should be able to cover the battery replacement and still come out ahead on fuel savings.