8.8 Magnitude Earthquake hit Japan

[Broncojohnny]

I'd like to be in their control room surrounded by some Japanese girls with fat tits.

I just got a pic from one of our environmental consultants of the tsunami wave sweeping into the SF bay:

[SMKR]

[SMKR]

REUTERSFLASH
Tepco says has lost ability to control reactor pressure at Fukushima Daini nos. 1, 2, 4 reactors less than a minute ago via web

[SMKR]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tbstv

[stevo]

Ash was propelled to a height of 80 km (50 mi).

That is insane.

Stevo

[mstng86]

The last place I would want to be is in the control room right now LOL.

But I would love to be a fly on the wall with a japanese translator explaining it all.

[Osiris]

If they lost all power, and the ability to use hpci/rcic, then they would have blown down the reactor to the suppression pool by now. Assuming they also lost power to containment cooling and sprays, is the only reason I could see them venting to atmosphere.

Since it appears they've lost all power, they are no doubt into the T-200s for venting. The reactor should be 2/3rds covered, at least, and down near 50-150 pounds if they are anything like ours... meaning safe. Decay is also much less than 1% by now.

Of course, this is also assuming they have TRIPS similar to ours.

A loss of all offsite power was one of my fortes at Peach Bottom, but admittedly, an earthquake throws a wrench into the works that isn't often covered over in my neck of the woods. However, there would have to be A LOT of things go wrong that would prevent them from keeping the reactor depressurized right now. That is why it is my wager that the reactor is fine, and that containment is their concern. Again though, I don't know what they have in the way of say.. diesel driven fire pumps or back up nitrogen to ADS. The media keeps saying reactor pressure though, which means a lot of thing would have to go wrong. Besides a loss of power, they would have had to lose nitrogen to their ADS valves, which require no power to operate. If there is one thing you should be able to always do at a BWR, its blow the reactor down to containment. So not know exactly what they have/don't have, or that what the media is saying is accurate, there really is no way to tell. I am just trying to think about what I'd be doing if I was back at Peach Bottom and this happened.

One thing I do know is that I would love to be in their control room right now.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[DODGE]

now they are saying a meltdown is likely, wow

If they lost all power, and the ability to use hpci/rcic, then they would have blown down the reactor to the suppression pool by now. Assuming they also lost power to containment cooling and sprays, is the only reason I could see them venting to atmosphere.

Since it appears they've lost all power, they are no doubt into the T-200s for venting. The reactor should be 2/3rds covered, at least, and down near 50-150 pounds if they are anything like ours... meaning safe. Decay is also much less than 1% by now.

Of course, this is also assuming they have TRIPS similar to ours.

A loss of all offsite power was one of my fortes at Peach Bottom, but admittedly, an earthquake throws a wrench into the works that isn't often covered over in my neck of the woods. However, there would have to be A LOT of things go wrong that would prevent them from keeping the reactor depressurized right now. That is why it is my wager that the reactor is fine, and that containment is their concern. Again though, I don't know what they have in the way of say.. diesel driven fire pumps or back up nitrogen to ADS. The media keeps saying reactor pressure though, which means a lot of thing would have to go wrong. Besides a loss of power, they would have had to lose nitrogen to their ADS valves, which require no power to operate. If there is one thing you should be able to always do at a BWR, its blow the reactor down to containment. So not know exactly what they have/don't have, or that what the media is saying is accurate, there really is no way to tell. I am just trying to think about what I'd be doing if I was back at Peach Bottom and this happened.

One thing I do know is that I would love to be in their control room right now.

[Broncojohnny]

Fuji erupted 35 days after an 8.6 magnitude quake, hopefully it doesn't follow the same path this time.

I always wonder how long it is going to be before we have another Krakatoa, when it goes down it is going to seriously fuck some shit up....



"Early phaseIn the years before the 1883 eruption, seismic activity around the volcano was intense, with some earthquakes felt as far as Australia. Beginning 20 May 1883, three months before the final explosion, steam venting began to occur regularly from Perbuatan, the northernmost of the island's three cones. Eruptions of ash reached an altitude of 6 km (20,000 ft) and explosions could be heard in New Batavia (Jakarta) 160 km (99 mi) away. Activity died down by the end of May, with no records of activity until mid-June.

Eruptions started again around 16 June, when loud explosions were heard and a thick black cloud covered the islands for five days. On 24 June an east wind blew this cloud away and two ash columns were seen issuing from Krakatoa. The new seat of the eruption is believed to have been a new vent or vents which formed between Perbuatan and Danan, near the location of the volcanic cone of Anak Krakatau. The violence of the eruption caused tides in the vicinity to be unusually high, and ships at anchor had to be moored with chains as a result. Earthquake shocks began to be felt at Anyer (Java), and large pumice masses started to be reported by ships in the Indian Ocean to the west.

On 11 August, H.J.G. Ferzenaar investigated the islands. He noted three major ash columns (the newer from Danan), which obscured the western part of the island (the wind blows primarily from the east at this time of year), and steam plumes from at least eleven other vents, mostly between Danan and Rakata. Where he landed, he found an ash layer about 0.5 m (1 ft 8 in) thick; all vegetation had been destroyed, with only tree stumps left. He advised against any further landings. The next day, a ship passing to the north reported a new vent "only a few meters above sea level" (this may be the most northerly spot indicated on Ferzenaar's map). Activity continued through mid August.

[edit] Climactic phaseBy 25 August, eruptions further intensified. At about 13:00 (local time) on 26 August, the volcano went into its paroxysmal phase, and by 14:00 observers could see a black cloud of ash 27 km (17 mi) high. At this point, the eruption was virtually continuous and explosions could be heard every ten minutes or so. Ships within 20 km (12 mi) of the volcano reported heavy ash fall, with pieces of hot pumice up to 10 cm (3.9 in) in diameter landing on their decks. A small tsunami hit the shores of Java and Sumatra some 40 km (25 mi) away between the time of 18:00 and 19:00 hours.

On 27 August four enormous explosions took place at 05:30, 06:44, 10:02, and 10:41 local time. The explosions were so violent that they were heard 3,500 km (2,200 mi) away in Perth, Western Australia and the Indian Ocean island of Rodrigues near Mauritius, 4,800 km (3,000 mi) away, where they were thought to be cannonfire from a nearby ship.[1][2]:22 Each was accompanied by very large tsunamis, which are believed to have been over 30 meters (100 ft) high in places. A large area of the Sunda Strait and a number of places on the Sumatran coast were affected by pyroclastic flows from the volcano.

The pressure wave generated by the colossal final explosion radiated from Krakatoa at 1,086 km/h (675 mph).[3] It was so powerful that it shattered the eardrums of sailors on ships in the Sunda Strait[4] and caused a spike of more than two and half inches of mercury (ca 85 hPa) in pressure gauges attached to gasometers in the Jakarta gasworks, sending them off the scale.[5] The pressure wave radiated across the globe and was recorded on barographs all over the world, which continued to register it up to 5 days after the explosion. Barograph recordings show that the shockwave from the final explosion reverberated around the globe 7 times in total.[2] Ash was propelled to a height of 80 km (50 mi).

The eruptions diminished rapidly after that point, and by the morning of August 28 Krakatoa was silent. Small eruptions, mostly of mud, continued through October, though further reports continued through February 1884. These reports were discounted by Verbeek."

[SMKR]

Fuji erupted 35 days after an 8.6 magnitude quake, hopefully it doesn't follow the same path this time.

[Sgt Beavis]

Map of the nuclear plant...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Fukushima+nuclear+plant&aq=&sll=37.760723,140.473356&sspn=0.835975,1.447449&gl=us&g=Fukushima,+Fukushima+Prefecture,+Japan&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Fukushima+I+Nuclear+Power+Plant&ll=37.422458,141.038704&spn=0.052487,0.090466&t=h&z=14

[Sgt Beavis]

I know I was when I was there. I was always wondering "Is it really extinct?"
That, and always hearing about the Great Kanto Plain Earthquake of 1923..."but wait, don't we live in the Kanto Plain?!?"

I don't know if Zama has a Facebook page, but I've been getting a lot of info from the Atsugi page.

This is Cama Zama's page:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43328722524

I was stationed there back in '92-'93...

Fuji isn't extinct, but dormant. It's last activity was in 2001. So far nothing is happening..

[butt86]

In other news: Yahoo trending list.

TRENDING NOW
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1 reference to all this in the top 10. Wow, we are messed up society.

and im sure that was only so people could figure out what "aftershocks" meant!

[stevo]

great idea to put a nuclear plant right on the coast

The tsunami didn't do it, the earthquake and power outages are the root causes.

Stevo

[Denny]

great idea to put a nuclear plant right on the coast

Unlimited water source for the most important safety measure... the cooling towers. Plus, the water can knock down an airborne fallout.