Adding fluid to a vert top motor on a 99 GT

[talisman]

How complicated is it, and what do I need to pull apart to get to it? Top goes down like a champ, but is going back up very slow. I'm sure it probably hasn't been touched since it was new, and I'd like to try this before forking out $200 on a new motor. Thanks guys.

[stephen4785]

How complicated is it, and what do I need to pull apart to get to it? Top goes down like a champ, but is going back up very slow. I'm sure it probably hasn't been touched since it was new, and I'd like to try this before forking out $200 on a new motor. Thanks guys.

Unless theres a leak you wont need any fluid.

[talisman]

After 13 years none of the fluid would have been used up?

[Stephen]

i've never owned a vert anything but im assuming there's no vert motor fluid as it doesnt use any sort of hydraulics? + ive never seen it at vato zone..

[Baron Von Crowder]

After 13 years none of the fluid would have been used up?

Its hydraulic, sealed system.

[stephen4785]

After 13 years none of the fluid would have been used up?

Like Barron said, it's a sealed system so there's no need to top off the system unless you know there's a leak. Unfortunately I think your gonna have to get a new motor. Just make sure it's not due to a leak or something first.

[talisman]

Thanks for the info guys.

[Whiteboy]

Thanks for the info guys.

shitty advise.

Pull the pump off very easy drain it then refill with trans fluid.

I have owned tons of verts.

[stephen4785]

shitty advise.

Pull the pump off very easy drain it then refill with trans fluid.

I have owned tons of verts.

So a sealed system magically uses fluid and you need to drain it and refill it?

[Whiteboy]

So a sealed system magically uses fluid and you need to drain it and refill it?

Its not sealed douche bag. The pump has a sep hole. Why dont you learn a little about what your'e talking about before you post. btw go fuck yourself

[Baron Von Crowder]

Its not sealed douche bag. The pump has a sep hole. Why dont you learn a little about what your'e talking about before you post. btw go fuck yourself

It isn't sealed as far as you can drain the fluid/replace it. They are sealed as far as they don't have any place for the fluid to go, other than stay in the system. If it was low, there would be a leak somewhere.

The only benefit to changing the fluid to ATF would be that ATF might be thinner than the hydraulic fluid that is in it, helping the pump. Or if there is trash from the pump going out, flushing might help, but in the end, if the pump is going out, its going out.

[talisman]

You guys don't think that after 12 years some of that fluid hasn't broken down, or been "used up?"


Jeremy, have you had this problem and solved it before with that solution? This car is just a beater, I don't want to put a lot of money into it. However, I do want to the top to work since that is the primary reason I bought it, and it is now nice enough outside to put it down again.

[2000 vert]

Have u checked the motor to see if it is low on fluid? When mine is low the I can hear,the motor but the top won't raise. I have a leak in one of the rams. I have to add atf about every 15 times I drop the top. The fluid leaks into the quater panel so it is not noticable. To check, pull the panel in the trunk. Pump has a plastic plug. Pull it out and add fluid till it runs out. I heat the plug in microvave to get it in easier.

[stephen4785]

You guys don't think that after 12 years some of that fluid hasn't broken down, or been "used up?"


Jeremy, have you had this problem and solved it before with that solution? This car is just a beater, I don't want to put a lot of money into it. However, I do want to the top to work since that is the primary reason I bought it, and it is now nice enough outside to put it down again.

I dont have any problems with changing the fluid due to maintenance(fluid breaking down) or adding fluid to the system. But the only reason you would have to add more fluid is that there's a leak in the system. If the top wouldnt go up all he way I would think it's due to low fluid. The hydraulic pump gets fluid from the reserve tank, pressurizes it and then it's routed to hydraulic cylinders that raise the top. If the pump runs out of fluid the hydraulic rams stop moving. So if the top would only go up a little or half way then stop It would be low on fluid. But since it goes up slowly the linkage is either binding up or the motor is pumping to slowly. Talk to anyone who has any experience working with hydraulic systems and ask them if adding fluid will cause any hydraulic cylinder to operate faster. They'll tell you that the only thing that will cause a hydraulic cylinder to operate slowly is a weak hydraulic motor, system binding up, hydraulic line ballooning, or a faulty valve.

[gip99gt]

change fluid out then check for leaks....