NASCAR 2012 Season

[Lone Sailor]

heck just making the field is a nice payday.

Yep, that's why the start and park has become so popular. Start a race, race a handful of laps, then park it and save the equipment for the next race. Keep doing that until you can afford some better engines, chassis, etc, and then they start getting a little more competitve. Just look at Furniture Row Racing, perfect example of what happens when you do it right.

[pHILSANITY07]

Yep, that's why the start and park has become so popular. Start a race, race a handful of laps, then park it and save the equipment for the next race. Keep doing that until you can afford some better engines, chassis, etc, and then they start getting a little more competitve. Just look at Furniture Row Racing, perfect example of what happens when you do it right.

That win at Darlington was pretty sweet to see. Expecially when their shop is in Denver, Colorado. They do have an alliance with RCR so I bet that helps too. Heck they ran pretty good a couple of times last year. Started 5th and finished 7th in the Daytona 500. Finished 8th at the Coca Cola 600. 3rd at the Brickyard 400.

[T-TOPPS5.0]

you really don't know how this sport works do you?

Do you work in/for nascar or a team? If so... please educate me on how it works. I dont claim to know every aspect of the system. I was merely saying that it is not up to the driver to find the sponsor for his ride. I know that for a fact.

[T-TOPPS5.0]

because the pay scale doesn't pay to be competitive, it pays to get in the race.....

Really? So the point of racing isnt to be competitive?

[T-TOPPS5.0]

Yep, that's why the start and park has become so popular. Start a race, race a handful of laps, then park it and save the equipment for the next race. Keep doing that until you can afford some better engines, chassis, etc, and then they start getting a little more competitve. Just look at Furniture Row Racing, perfect example of what happens when you do it right.

I agree to a degree.... But I rufuse to believe that all teams do so by choice. Some just dont have the funds period. And will never have them if they cant run well and pick up some decent money from sponsors. Robby Gordon should be an example.

[Lone Sailor]

I agree to a degree.... But I rufuse to believe that all teams do so by choice. Some just dont have the funds period. And will never have them if they cant run well and pick up some decent money from sponsors. Robby Gordon should be an example.

Robby Gordon had successes before coming to Nascar which created some wealth to be able to run his own Cup team since the year 2000(IMSA, offroad, and open wheel racing). He also still has many other ventures that creates profits to fund his Cup and offroad teams.

[Couver]

Do you work in/for nascar or a team? If so... please educate me on how it works. I dont claim to know every aspect of the system. I was merely saying that it is not up to the driver to find the sponsor for his ride. I know that for a fact.

He has or is working in the industry.... Knows his stuff....

[T-TOPPS5.0]

Robby Gordon had successes before coming to Nascar which created some wealth to be able to run his own Cup team since the year 2000(IMSA, offroad, and open wheel racing). He also still has many other ventures that creates profits to fund his Cup and offroad teams.

I know all about his success in off road. Thats what I said, he is successful elsewhere. Im not trying to downplay his successes there, but they dont have anything to do with his lack of success in nascar. He hasnt had much in nascar as a driver when he was with RCR or as an owner/driver. My point was, he isnt making much money because he sued another sanctioning body and stated himself that he couldnt afford to loose money to keep his operation going. How many open wheel drivers or drivers from other racing forms have had any real success other than Tony Stewart?

[T-TOPPS5.0]

He has or is working in the industry.... Knows his stuff....

I never said he didnt know his stuff. I have learned a few things from him. But, his stating that I didnt know much about the sport (I never claimed to).... Having done a lot of meet and greets, I have had the pleasure of talking to a few people in the industry, and I was just stating that it wasnt up to the drivers to find sponsors.

[80coupe]

Do you work in/for nascar or a team? If so... please educate me on how it works. I dont claim to know every aspect of the system. I was merely saying that it is not up to the driver to find the sponsor for his ride. I know that for a fact.

he does lol. not saying your wrong i dont know either.

[Grape]

85% of the drivers bring the sponsors to the team to get the ride, when their money runs out, so does their career. Our driver for the indycar this year brought $500,000 and doesnt' need any signage on the car. Drivers are paying to drive race cars not the other way around. Dinger pays or drives for free just like he did in champ car, David Ragan and his father are close friends of mine, he wanted to get paid.

this is nothing new, Pete Hamilton won the daytona 500 in 1970 in a bought Petty ride..........

[Grape]

How many open wheel drivers or drivers from other racing forms have had any real success other than Tony Stewart?

jeff gordon, ryan newman, kasey kahne, jimmie johnson..........LOL are you serious?

[Grape]

Really? So the point of racing isnt to be competitive?

this sport has little to do with racing at this level, it's professional entertainment........

[80coupe]

so i was right lol.

[pHILSANITY07]

85% of the drivers bring the sponsors to the team to get the ride, when their money runs out, so does their career. Our driver for the indycar this year brought $500,000 and doesnt' need any signage on the car. Drivers are paying to drive race cars not the other way around. Dinger pays or drives for free just like he did in champ car, David Ragan and his father are close friends of mine, he wanted to get paid.

this is nothing new, Pete Hamilton won the daytona 500 in 1970 in a bought Petty ride..........

who's your driver in the indy series?