lance armstrong

[Ratt]

What I don't understand is why a tax-payer funded organization is going unchecked in something like this. Like has been said they have zero jurisdiction in the case; they have a fucking shifty past, present, and future; and want to strip one of the hardest working athletes in history of his most major accomplishments and defeats to adversity. I don't get why ANYONE who pays taxes is putting any credence into this and not just telling them to fuck off and get back to sniffing piss for drugs.

[yellowstang]

it's not that he passed 500 tests already, it's that test 501 woulda busted him!

[Strychnine]

Or Vinokourov... actually tested positive during the TdF a few yrs ago and was only banned for two yrs.

[Strychnine]

How's this for some added bullshit (assuming you give credence to the USADA)


Alberto Contador tested positive for Clenbuterol at the 2010 TdF.

TESTED POSITIVE. Something Armstrong has NEVER done.

Contador was cleared to return to racing in 2011 with no loss of his tour results.



Sounds fair to me

[jdgregory84]

Witch hunt. Innocent until proven guilty no longer has a place in our society.

[Rick Modena]

they are going to put a boot on his bicycle

Of all the dumbshit you post, thats actually pretty funny, BITCH!

[krazy kris]

they are going to put a boot on his bicycle

[Sean88gt]

Such bullshit, on all levels.

America - the home of punishing hard work and extraordinary effort. The USADA needs to be flooded with calls, emails, bags of manure, whatever it takes to stop this.

[Strychnine]

The whole thing is just disappointing.


Just start at the top... Fuck the USADA.

“There comes a point in every man’s life when he has to say, ‘Enough is enough.’ For me, that time is now…Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances.”

If I thought for one moment that by participating in USADA’s process, I could confront these allegations in a fair setting and – once and for all – put these charges to rest, I would jump at the chance. But I refuse to participate in a process that is so one-sided and unfair. Regardless of what Travis Tygart says, there is zero physical evidence to support his outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of controls I have passed with flying colors. I made myself available around the clock and around the world. In-competition. Out of competition. Blood. Urine. Whatever they asked for I provided. What is the point of all this testing if, in the end, USADA will not stand by it?

Full statement here ---> http://www.adventure-journal.com/ful...ong-statement/

It's pretty evident that the real issue are USADA trying to muscle their way into regulating sport. They saw an easy in in prosecuting an old, nonsense case against Armstrong.

USADA have an 8 year statue of limitations yet they are pursuing chages 17 years old against him?

UCI and USA Cycling have both said that USADA does not have jurisdiction in this case.

UCI has stated that any bans, stripping of titles, etc by USADA are made without proper authority and that under no circumstances should anyone participate in USADA's improper proceedings.

USADA has said that there should be a single set of rules applicable to all... they just wont rest until it's THEIR set of rules that everyone bends to. They refuse to respect the worldwide governance of UCI.

So Hincapie, Vande Velde, Zabriskie, Landis, Hamilton, et al are willing to tesitfy... but do you think that is because they have an axe to grind with the man they helped push to those titles? Or because they suddenly, after a decade, had a change of heart? Or do you maybe think that USADA has plans for them also but has arranged up to a 75% reduction in "sentencing" for anyone who provides "substantial assistance" in doping cases.

Lastly, USADA is funded by taxpayers. I want no part of this witch hunt... give me my fucking money back.


Fuck them. I don't care if Lance doped. I really don't.

But I hate what they are doing to him and what they are doing to the sport in general.

[CJ]

Really? Roger Clemens? Barry Bonds? Sammy Sosa? Thats just in one sport and those were all year after year allegations.

I didn't say him not wanting to fight anymore PROVES him guilty. I guess it's coincidental that he quit competing, went to triathlons and isn't going to dispute being the greatest cyclist ever.

His new sport of choice is triathlons, and despite being banned from quite a few of them, he still doesn't fight his case. You're right, that makes perfect sense. If you were someone that had nothing to prove, you might turn away from cycling. However, if you were being excluded from your new sport of choice also, you might have something to say about it.

I guess you're right, it's much easier to be innocent and suspected to be guilty and tests prove you to be in-line with guilt than to actually be guilty. That darn science, it's wrong all the time!

That theory might hold water if you were unaware he passed 500 individual drug tests during all the years of the tours. You're jumping on the bandwagon without any of the facts.

[hotrod66stang]

Really? Roger Clemens? Barry Bonds? Sammy Sosa? Thats just in one sport and those were all year after year allegations.

I didn't say him not wanting to fight anymore PROVES him guilty. I guess it's coincidental that he quit competing, went to triathlons and isn't going to dispute being the greatest cyclist ever.

His new sport of choice is triathlons, and despite being banned from quite a few of them, he still doesn't fight his case. You're right, that makes perfect sense. If you were someone that had nothing to prove, you might turn away from cycling. However, if you were being excluded from your new sport of choice also, you might have something to say about it.

I guess you're right, it's much easier to be innocent and suspected to be guilty and tests prove you to be in-line with guilt than to actually be guilty. That darn science, it's wrong all the time!

[motoman]

The fact is this: L.A. has won an unprecedented amount of TdF victories, all while beating cancer. I don't presume to know him, but I don't know any competitive people who would say "oh, you're going to take all of my titles away? Eh, go ahead."

Every man has their breaking point and I don't know of any other athlete that's had as many or more allegations brought against them than Lance Armstrong has. IMO he's innocent until proven guilty and in my eyes, him not wanting to fight anymore does not prove him guilty.

[hotrod66stang]

Does anyone have physical proof that he did it? Until they do I am with Lance. I know their are accusations all over the web but until someone can show me his test showing he had drugs in the system its all word of mouth. Innocent until proven guilty. Not innocent until someone accuses you. The fact that you don't like him does not make him guilty.

It seems like the USADA is butthurt over the fact that he beat the drug test and is out to make sure he did take drugs.

You completely missed the mark. I said to google a certain term, which would return certain hits. These hits would INCLUDE, but not preclude other incidents from happening. It's funny that Barry Bonds would receive and indictment from this forum, but Lance Armstrong wouldn't. Neither have been found guilty of anything. They're both dirty as shit, though.

P.S. The fact that I "don't like him" has NOTHING to do with this. I waited on Cory Morrow at the same restaurant as Lance, and he was a MUCH bigger douche, but you don't hear me proclaiming that Cory Morrow took 'roids or had blood transfusions, or isn't the best 'Texas country singer,' do you? Negative. I don't give a shit about these guys' personalities.

The fact is this: L.A. has won an unprecedented amount of TdF victories, all while beating cancer. I don't presume to know him, but I don't know any competitive people who would say "oh, you're going to take all of my titles away? Eh, go ahead."

[CJ]

Does anyone have physical proof that he did it? Until they do I am with Lance. I know their are accusations all over the web but until someone can show me his test showing he had drugs in the system its all word of mouth. Innocent until proven guilty. Not innocent until someone accuses you. The fact that you don't like him does not make him guilty.

It seems like the USADA is butthurt over the fact that he beat the drug test and is out to make sure he did take drugs.

Whatever seems the most sensational is almost always the least accurate.

[no4njnk]

I'm as pro-American athlete (and UT) as they come, but give me a break. Aside from the fact that I've waited on L.A., and he was a total douche, google "blood transfusion cyclist" and check out a few links.

Fuck L.A. and Roger Clemens. They're both dirty as shit.

Does anyone have physical proof that he did it? Until they do I am with Lance. I know their are accusations all over the web but until someone can show me his test showing he had drugs in the system its all word of mouth. Innocent until proven guilty. Not innocent until someone accuses you. The fact that you don't like him does not make him guilty.

It seems like the USADA is butthurt over the fact that he beat the drug test and is out to make sure he did take drugs.