Eric Holder Charged with Contempt

[Forever_frost]

It went directly among party lines. Dems dont' see an issue

[stevo]

Maybe Obama is trying to erase all the past info, like in 1984.

Scary, huh?
By the time the documents are handed over, it will just a single sheet left that says "go fuck yourself".

Stevo

[CJ]

23 yes
17 no
Holder in Contempt of Court.

*congress

[KBScobravert]

23 yes
17 no
Holder in Contempt of Court.

It worked as of an hour ago though.

Maybe Obama is trying to erase all the past info, like in 1984.

[Strychnine]

The post with the link was made in April.

Stevo

It worked as of an hour ago though.

[Strychnine]

damn...that link died fast

Here ya go. I happened to have left the link open.

Holder retracts claim Bush team knew about Fast and Furious

June 20, 2012


In a second major retraction over its version of the the gun-walking scandal, the Justice Department has retracted Attorney General Eric Holder's charge in a hearing last week that his Bush administration predecessor had been briefed on the affair.

In a memo just released by Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Iowa senator reveals that Holder also didn't apologize to former Attorney General Michael Mukasey for dragging him into the Fast & Furious scandal that is headed for a major legal clash and likely contempt of Congress charge against Holder.

According to Grassley's memo, Justice said that Holder "inadvertently" made the charge against Mukasey in a hearing.

Here is the full text of the Grassley memo:

To: Reporters and Editors

Re: Second retraction of Fast and Furious Assertions

Da: Wednesday, June 20, 2012

The Justice Department has retracted a second statement made to the Senate Judiciary Committee. During a hearing last week, Attorney General Eric Holder claimed that his predecessor, then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey, had been briefed about gunwalking in Operation Wide Receiver. Now, the Department is retracting that statement and claiming Holder "inadvertently" made that claim to the Committee. The Department's letter failed to apologize to former Attorney General Mukasey for the false accusation. This is the second major retraction the Justice Department has made in the last seven months. In December 2011, the Department retracted its claim that the ATF had not allowed illegally purchased guns to be trafficked to Mexico. Sen. Chuck Grassley's letter and the Department's response can be viewed here-1.

In addition, the Justice Department released only one page of additional material prior to the Attorney General's meeting on Capitol Hill on Tuesday. It is a page of handwritten notes by a public affairs specialist for the Deputy Attorney General, which the Department says it "just recently discovered." The notes indicate that when Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein met with senior ATF officials on April 28, 2010, regarding the problem of gunwalking in Wide Receiver, the Deputy Attorney General's public affairs specialist also attended the meeting. These notes can be viewed here-2.

The notes indicate that Fast and Furious was also a topic discussed at the meeting, in addition to Wide Receiver. These notes further corroborate contemporaneous emails in 2010 that show Criminal Division Chief Lanny Breuer and Weinstein seemed to have been more concerned about the press implications of gunwalking than they were about making sure ATF ended the practice. (These emails can be viewed here-3.) The notes also undermine the claim that senior DOJ officials failed to "make the connection" between the gunwalking in Wide Receiver--which Breuer admitted to knowing about--and gunwalking in Fast and Furious. In fact, both cases were discussed by senior Department leadership and senior ATF leadership.

Grassley made the following comment on these developments.

"This is the second time in nearly seven months that the Department has gotten its facts wrong about gunwalking. Attorney General Holder accused Attorney General Mukasey, without producing any evidence, of having been briefed on gunwalking in Wide Receiver. The case Attorney General Mukasey was briefed on, Hernandez, is fundamentally different from both Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious since it involved cooperation with the Mexican government. Attorney General Holder's retraction should have included an apology to the former Attorney General.

"In his eagerness to blame the previous administration, Attorney General Holder got his facts wrong. And his tactic didn't bring us any closer to understanding how a bad policy evolved and continued. Bad policy is bad policy, regardless of how many administrations carried it out. Ironically, the only document produced yesterday by the Department appears to show that senior officials in the Attorney General's own Department were strategizing about how to keep gunwalking in both Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious under wraps."

[stevo]

damn...that link died fast


Sorry man, it ain't happening. And I definitely don't want another 1992 or 1996 with a 3rd candidate.

The post with the link was made in April.

Stevo

[CJ]

Paul very well can get the nomination

When I read this stuff, it makes me wonder if you understand how things work. No, he can't get the nomination. He was fucking annihilated. The people of the US do not want him. You had the election, it didn't happen - for the third time. It's over forever now. You need to move on.

[GhostTX]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...elT_story.html

Issa is being interviewed now and just said that there is a citation that has been drafted. I think he's just waiting on Boehner's OK before formally issuing it.

damn...that link died fast

the very reason paul cant win is what makes me not want to vote romney and keep the status quo going.. the media and republican party do not want paul to win and the gravy train to end. America needs real change, romney is not enough, its either a vote for a police state/big government or a socialist state/big government.. Paul very well can get the nomination, therefore can win the election. but instead i guess we can all just sit on dfwstangs and squabble and bicker over why paul cant win because someone on fox news didnt tell you he could.

Sorry man, it ain't happening. And I definitely don't want another 1992 or 1996 with a 3rd candidate.

[Forever_frost]

What I'd like to know is what is the end game? Congress charges him with contempt.. and then what? Obama just ignores it? That's pretty much exactly what he will do. Any teeth behind any of this?

From my limited understanding is that once there's a contempt charge, they can go to the courts for remedy. I wonder how Holder would treat us if we refused to release every bit of information he wanted during an inquisition

[CJ]

Torches and pitchforks?

[Strychnine]

Any teeth behind any of this?

Torches and pitchforks?

[CJ]

What I'd like to know is what is the end game? Congress charges him with contempt.. and then what? Obama just ignores it? That's pretty much exactly what he will do. Any teeth behind any of this?

[Geor!]

Contempt proceedings underway.