Update on Hasan

[Forever_frost]

Actually, it happens quite a bit. Unless you get a shaving profile, you HAVE to shave. Have to. No discussion, you're going to do it. To refuse is a violation of the UCMJ and they can and will hold your ass down and shave you. It was done in Basic.

[bcoop]

No other religion would be able to, during a court martial, be able to tell the judge "Not shaving, can't make me, fuck you." None. Especially one that only started growing his beard during the proceedings.

You can't say that with certainty, because it hasn't happened (to my knowledge).

You think we'd still be waiting for the case to start if he was Jewish or Catholic or anything BUT a pig fucking, pedophile worshiping Muslim?

There are many reasons the trial hasn't started. I don't think his religion has much of anything to do with any of it.


Before you go off on a tirade, I'm not sticking up for the piece of shit. He deserves to die a slow, painful death. Trials are slow processes. It's the defense attorney's job to delay things as long as possible. Beyond that, the first judge getting tossed has a lot to do with it as well.

[Vertnut]

Islam is a "minority religion", therefore, more protected, as are other "minorities".

[racrguy]

They can take your life if you violate some of those clauses. Are you arguing morals or law here?

I'm arguing whether or not religions are a protected status, that's it.

I'm with Don and Mardyn in my opinion of him, and what he's doing.

[CJ]

Yes, I understand exactly what is lost when you join the armed forces, I also know that the armed forces can't do whatever they damn well please.

They can take your life if you violate some of those clauses. Are you arguing morals or law here?

[mardyn]

That mother fucker and his lawyers are just trying to delay the trial
by any mean possible... all the while, he's still collecting a paycheck
from the Army (you & me).

mardyn

[racrguy]

I don't know if this has been covered, but racrguy you do understand that when you sign as an enlisted or commissioned officer you also relinquish some of those rights.

Yes, I understand exactly what is lost when you join the armed forces, I also know that the armed forces can't do whatever they damn well please.

[CJ]

I don't know if this has been covered, but racrguy you do understand that when you sign as an enlisted or commissioned officer you also relinquish some of those rights.

[Forever_frost]

No other religion would be able to, during a court martial, be able to tell the judge "Not shaving, can't make me, fuck you." None. Especially one that only started growing his beard during the proceedings.

You think we'd still be waiting for the case to start if he was Jewish or Catholic or anything BUT a pig fucking, pedophile worshiping Muslim?

[The King]

42 USC § 2000e–2

Hasan has currently been discharged from his duties because he stands accused of murder and not because of his race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. Nice copy and paste work, Google Boy, but don't know why exactly you chose that subsection to quote since it doesn't apply to this thread topic. Maybe your lack of comprehension of what you googled perhaps?

[racrguy]

The "civil rights act" states it protects "religious minorities". "Minorities" being the key word. As an atheist, you may view all religions the same, but the government does not.

42 USC § 2000e–2

(a) Employer practices
It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer—
(1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual’s race, color, religion, sex, or national origin; or
(2) to limit, segregate, or classify his employees or applicants for employment in any way which would deprive or tend to deprive any individual of employment opportunities or otherwise adversely affect his status as an employee, because of such individual’s race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

Dew wut?

[aggie97]

Let him have his beard all the way onto the table for his lethal injection.

Negative. Send him into the general population at Levinworth (sp?) and let the grunts feed him the contents of his colostamy bag daily for the rest of his life. A quick death is what he wants so he can get to his virgins and be considered a martyr. The families of those who were killed have to live with the destruction, so should he.

[Vertnut]

It's still a protected class.

So the Civil Rights act of 1964 doesn't exist? You're wrong, again.


Almost any religion followed as fundamentally as some muslims follow islam exempts a person from the liability of killing someone.


You guys are misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm not saying I agree with Hasan's shenanigans, all I'm saying is that religion is a protected class

The "civil rights act" states it protects "religious minorities". "Minorities" being the key word. As an atheist, you may view all religions the same, but the government does not.

[racrguy]

1. In real life that is not the case.

Then quit bitching about it then and fight to enforce the laws that are on the books.

2. Killing vs murder are two different things.

Ya don't say!? Although, the distinction being made by you wasn't made by line-em-up.

3. Your stirring up shit by splitting hairs with the person who made the post.

Wrong. He made the insinuation that the group he was affiliated with wasn't a protected class, he was wrong.

This will be my last post to you,

You've said this before, yet here you are.

since I know you have all the time in the world to argue.

What can I say, work is slow..

[The King]

Racrboy isn't capable of stirring up much shit on his own, but he is very accomplished at googling!