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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by Durantula View Post
    I still don't understand how anyone is openly admitting they want to vote for a guy who has introduced virtually no actual policy changes he'll make if he takes office. Romney is basically running his campaign on "I'm not Obama. I know how to fix stuff. Just trust me."
    Versus a guy who has run the country into the ground with no budget for the last 3 years? That's the first time in history this has happened. Please enlighten me on why Owebama deserves a second term?

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  • Grape
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    Originally posted by Durantula View Post
    I still don't understand how anyone is openly admitting they want to vote for a guy who has introduced virtually no actual policy changes he'll make if he takes office. Romney is basically running his campaign on "I'm not Obama. I know how to fix stuff. Just trust me."
    it's not entirely a bad plan in these parts, like i said earlier, i'm not thrilled with the choice i have to make, but i did it anyway.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by Durantula View Post
    The replies in this thread are hilarious to say the least. Income tax credits are 30 years of GOP tax policy, starting with Reagan and finishing with the Republican Congress in the 90s and the Bush tax cuts in 2001.

    The GOP has caused this rise in folks not paying income taxes and now they're claiming these people are poor Obama voters? LOL. You can't make this stuff up.

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    or from the 88 GOP platform: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25846
    I was wondering when you'd show up. Let's see who voted for Obama in 08. Minorities, poor who were promised the moon, and idiots who believe Hollywood actually tells the truth. Now, who do you think he's going for this time? People who aren't paying taxes

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  • Durantula
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    nothing, but i question why on earth would a man who does as well for himself financially want to burden himself with the meager job of running this united states. Something is strange with all of that.
    I still don't understand how anyone is openly admitting they want to vote for a guy who has introduced virtually no actual policy changes he'll make if he takes office. Romney is basically running his campaign on "I'm not Obama. I know how to fix stuff. Just trust me."

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  • Baron Von Crowder
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    ask that sarah palin chick.........
    dont need to, nobody else thought she was able to either.

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  • Grape
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    Originally posted by Baron View Post
    same in reverse, why would someone who hasnt run anything but his mouth be a good person to run the country?
    ask that sarah palin chick.........

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  • Baron Von Crowder
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    nothing, but i question why on earth would a man who does as well for himself financially want to burden himself with the meager job of running this united states. Something is strange with all of that.
    same in reverse, why would someone who hasnt run anything but his mouth be a good person to run the country?

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  • Snatch Napkin
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    Originally posted by Durantula View Post
    The replies in this thread are hilarious to say the least. Income tax credits are 30 years of GOP tax policy, starting with Reagan and finishing with the Republican Congress in the 90s and the Bush tax cuts in 2001.

    The GOP has caused this rise in folks not paying income taxes and now they're claiming these people are poor Obama voters? LOL. You can't make this stuff up.
    Some of the initial tax breaks, yes. The expansions on those tax breaks, no.

    The nullification of Clinton's welfare reform that puts more leaches on the government dole was done by Obama. If that goes unchecked then we will have a much larger issue to deal with.

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  • Grape
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    So what has Romney done to your family or your current situation?
    nothing, but i question why on earth would a man who does as well for himself financially want to burden himself with the meager job of running this united states. Something is strange with all of that.

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  • D. Lil
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    I've been listening to the media go on and on and on about this all day. Makes me want to just punch them all in the throat. Why is it hard to understand he was talking strategy? People who pay no taxes don't care about lowering taxes so he's not focusing on winning them over.

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  • Durantula
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    The replies in this thread are hilarious to say the least. Income tax credits are 30 years of GOP tax policy, starting with Reagan and finishing with the Republican Congress in the 90s and the Bush tax cuts in 2001.

    The GOP has caused this rise in folks not paying income taxes and now they're claiming these people are poor Obama voters? LOL. You can't make this stuff up.

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    or from the 88 GOP platform: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25846
    Under Republican leadership, tax reform removed 6 million low-income people from the income tax rolls and brought financial relief to tens of millions more.
    Last edited by Durantula; 09-18-2012, 01:45 PM.

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  • Snatch Napkin
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    i watched my parents business get destroyed during reagan's leadership with the savings and loan junk. All that was focused on was publicly traded home builders to show new home starts instead of revenue. (My father designed the first house D.R. Horton ever built.) This happened during Bush 2 as well, as long as the boys on wall st are showing home starts the housing market must be doing well....wrong. I was very young, but residential architects and custom home builders didn't exactly have a great time during the mid to late 80's. Their business came back a bit in the mid 90's, but never before like it once was.

    Insurance, my father's disease that ended up killing him required insurance that was almost $2200/month, with medication that was around $938/day. Sure, life isn't fair, says the republican side, you can't afford it, he dies.......cool, most members here would have to watch their loved ones die. I understand all that, i was fortunate enough to get another 7 years after he was diagnosed. Until some of these issues from the "dark side" hit you, i can understand both sides' reasoning, i just have my own.
    A lot of the crap that happened in the 80's was residue from the cause and effect of Carter. Obama has been following Carter's action very closely. I predict that we are going to have some serious fallout due to having the extreme opposite in office after Obama, but it is better than what would happen if Obama stayed in.

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    that brings me to my next point, i can't condone nor can i say i'm exactly thrilled with what our current administration has done, but for me it's the lesser of two evils.
    So what has Romney done to your family or your current situation?

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  • Grape
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    I'm in the housing industry, and the '80's were nothing compared to what it's been through with this Prez. You can thank Jimmy Carter for the S&L crap that started in the '70's. The blame game can go on and on, but I challenge you to tell me how Obama has helped with any of this.
    that brings me to my next point, i can't condone nor can i say i'm exactly thrilled with what our current administration has done, but for me it's the lesser of two evils.

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    i watched my parents business get destroyed during reagan's leadership with the savings and loan junk. All that was focused on was publicly traded home builders to show new home starts instead of revenue. (My father designed the first house D.R. Horton ever built.) This happened during Bush 2 as well, as long as the boys on wall st are showing home starts the housing market must be doing well....wrong. I was very young, but residential architects and custom home builders didn't exactly have a great time during the mid to late 80's. Their business came back a bit in the mid 90's, but never before like it once was.

    Insurance, my father's disease that ended up killing him required insurance that was almost $2200/month, with medication that was around $938/day. Sure, life isn't fair, says the republican side, you can't afford it, he dies.......cool, most members here would have to watch their loved ones die. I understand all that, i was fortunate enough to get another 7 years after he was diagnosed. Until some of these issues from the "dark side" hit you, i can understand both sides' reasoning, i just have my own.
    I'm in the housing industry, and the '80's were nothing compared to what it's been through with this Prez. You can thank Jimmy Carter for the S&L crap that started in the '70's. The blame game can go on and on, but I challenge you to tell me how Obama has helped with any of this.

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