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  • Baron Von Crowder
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    i watched my parents business get destroyed during reagan's leadership with the savings and loan junk. All that was focused on was publicly traded home builders to show new home starts instead of revenue. (My father designed the first house D.R. Horton ever built.) This happened during Bush 2 as well, as long as the boys on wall st are showing home starts the housing market must be doing well....wrong. I was very young, but residential architects and custom home builders didn't exactly have a great time during the mid to late 80's. Their business came back a bit in the mid 90's, but never before like it once was.

    Insurance, my father's disease that ended up killing him required insurance that was almost $2200/month, with medication that was around $938/day. Sure, life isn't fair, says the republican side, you can't afford it, he dies.......cool, most members here would have to watch their loved ones die. I understand all that, i was fortunate enough to get another 7 years after he was diagnosed. Until some of these issues from the "dark side" hit you, i can understand both sides' reasoning, i just have my own.
    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    people like our member steve who need medication to function. People you wouldn't think about that need help who have nowhere to turn, who's parents are just as fucked up and can provide nothing for what the state considers a "responsible adult".
    Ok, what makes you think any of the people who actually need that assistance wont get it if Obama doesnt get re-elected? Obama care will drive the price of private insurance up (it already has) and the quiality of heath care down.

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  • Jimbo
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    people like our member steve who need medication to function. People you wouldn't think about that need help who have nowhere to turn, who's parents are just as fucked up and can provide nothing for what the state considers a "responsible adult".
    I must have missed the part of the campaign that wants to stop Medicaid and Medicare and forget those who cannot help themselves. Got a link to that?

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  • Grape
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    Originally posted by Jimbo View Post
    What is it that "they" want to ignore?
    people like our member steve who need medication to function. People you wouldn't think about that need help who have nowhere to turn, who's parents are just as fucked up and can provide nothing for what the state considers a "responsible adult".

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  • Grape
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    Originally posted by Jester View Post
    Give examples.

    How is the democrat party helping you more than the republican party?
    i watched my parents business get destroyed during reagan's leadership with the savings and loan junk. All that was focused on was publicly traded home builders to show new home starts instead of revenue. (My father designed the first house D.R. Horton ever built.) This happened during Bush 2 as well, as long as the boys on wall st are showing home starts the housing market must be doing well....wrong. I was very young, but residential architects and custom home builders didn't exactly have a great time during the mid to late 80's. Their business came back a bit in the mid 90's, but never before like it once was.

    Insurance, my father's disease that ended up killing him required insurance that was almost $2200/month, with medication that was around $938/day. Sure, life isn't fair, says the republican side, you can't afford it, he dies.......cool, most members here would have to watch their loved ones die. I understand all that, i was fortunate enough to get another 7 years after he was diagnosed. Until some of these issues from the "dark side" hit you, i can understand both sides' reasoning, i just have my own.

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  • Jimbo
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    i'm not pro dependency, it just seems that with only two choices you have to take a lot of bad with some good. the democratic side just has less bad than the other for me. I hate knowing the system is getting milked by those who care nothing about bettering themselves, however the same systems tend to help those who will always need some form of help that the republican side wants to ignore.
    What is it that "they" want to ignore?

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  • Snatch Napkin
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    I guess he's on the gubment dole?
    Well, he seems to have a helluva lot more money than me.


    However, I am genuinely curious to know how this tanking economy doesn't affect his business. I realize he is in a niche market, as am I, but I would like to hear a different perspective. It might help my business.

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  • Jester
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    i'm not pro dependency, it just seems that with only two choices you have to take a lot of bad with some good. the democratic side just has less bad than the other for me. I hate knowing the system is getting milked by those who care nothing about bettering themselves, however the same systems tend to help those who will always need some form of help that the republican side wants to ignore.
    Give examples.

    How is the democrat party helping you more than the republican party?

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  • CJ
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    You're advocating the proliferation of dependency and draw a concept for why the republican solution isn't the answer.

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  • Baron Von Crowder
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    i voted for the other side, and will continue to do so. That video makes perfect sense to me and i understand his point. In my personal situation the republican plans don't make the world a better place for me. I can't understand why anyone from my side would be upset with what he said, it was an honest game plan on what to focus on to win an election. He is picking his battles wisely, can't blame him.
    Sparky, I (and im sure many others) would like to hear how your situation will be bettered or worsened by either candidate.

    Not picking on you, just singling you out because ive not ever heard from someone with a brain that feels the way you do, and think you could articulate actual reasons.

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  • Grape
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    Originally posted by CJ View Post
    Well, unless I'm misunderstanding what he's saying, he is pro dependency.
    i'm not pro dependency, it just seems that with only two choices you have to take a lot of bad with some good. the democratic side just has less bad than the other for me. I hate knowing the system is getting milked by those who care nothing about bettering themselves, however the same systems tend to help those who will always need some form of help that the republican side wants to ignore.

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  • Jester
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    Originally posted by CJ View Post
    Well, unless I'm misunderstanding what he's saying, he is pro dependency.
    Seems that way.

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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    I guess he's on the gubment dole?
    Well, unless I'm misunderstanding what he's saying, he is pro dependency.

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by CJ View Post
    What side is that?
    I guess he's on the gubment dole?

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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    i voted for the other side, and will continue to do so. That video makes perfect sense to me and i understand his point. In my personal situation the republican plans don't make the world a better place for me. I can't understand why anyone from my side would be upset with what he said, it was an honest game plan on what to focus on to win an election. He is picking his battles wisely, can't blame him.
    What side is that?

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  • Baron Von Crowder
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    Originally posted by Grape View Post
    i voted for the other side, and will continue to do so. That video makes perfect sense to me and i understand his point. In my personal situation the republican plans don't make the world a better place for me. I can't understand why anyone from my side would be upset with what he said, it was an honest game plan on what to focus on to win an election. He is picking his battles wisely, can't blame him.
    liberals and resoning dont generally go hand in hand.

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