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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    The rest of the country? Everything I have seen shows Obama winning the 2nd debate pretty decisively. I haven't seen a single thing that shows Romne won that one. In fact, the least damning thing I have seen shows it a deadlock, an that was only one place.

    As for more harm than good.... Do you pay attention to anything but Fox News? Maybe that's why your head is in the sand. He didn't do enough, IMO, to sway the undecided voters. He was not nearly a convincing as he was in the first debate. He wasn't specific enough about certain issues. And he didn't call out Obama nearly enough on failed policies. I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but one of the fact checkers said something like 70% of what he said were lies. When you consider the undecideds, all of that does not bode well for him.

    While Romney is better for the country than Obama, he's still a joke, and not what we need.
    You are aware that several of those 'fact checkers' are Democrat mouthpieces right?

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  • Forever_frost
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    CNN Managing Editor Sends Staff Email Defending Crowley
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    by Ben Shapiro 17 Oct 2012 489 post a comment
    Late this afternoon, TMZ reported a leaked email from CNN Managing Editor Mark Whitaker to the staff of CNN, defending disgraced second presidential debate moderator Candy Crowley. It’s a full-throated list of Barack Obama talking points. Here’s the email:

    Let's start with a big round of applause for Candy Crowley for a superb job under the most difficult circumstances imaginable. She and her team had to select and sequence questions in a matter of hours, and then she had to deal with the tricky format, the nervous questioners, the aggressive debaters, all while shutting out the pre-debate attempts to spin and intimidate her. She pulled it off masterfully.

    The reviews on Candy's performance have been overwhelmingly positive but Romney supporters are going after her on two points, no doubt because their man did not have as good a night as he had in Denver. On the legitimacy of Candy fact-checking Romney on Obama's Rose Garden statement, it should be stressed that she was just stating a point of fact: Obama did talk about an act (or acts) of terror, no matter what you think he meant by that at the time. On why Obama got more time to speak, it should be noted that Candy and her commission producers tried to keep it even but that Obama went on longer largely because he speaks more slowly. We're going to do a word count to see whether, as in Denver, Romney actually got more words in even if he talked for a shorter period of time.

    This is ridiculously biased, partisan, and stupid – or, as CNN might put it, brilliant.

    Start with the line that Crowley did a good job “under the most difficult circumstances imaginable.” This wasn’t the Battle of the Bulge. It was a presidential debate. And Crowley put herself at the center of attention with repeated interviews, declarations that she would exceed her role, and finally, an ass-kissing for President Obama worthy of Chris Matthews. Whitaker’s elaboration on her role is simply absurd. Selecting questions is not difficult. Neither is the format. Debaters are supposed to be aggressive. And the notion that she “shut out the pre-debate attempts to spin and intimidate her”? Laughable. Obama intimidated her during the debate into repeating her false fact check of Mitt Romney on Libya.

    But Whitaker continues this virtuosic manifesto of idiocy. He says that the reviews of her performance were “overwhelmingly positive.” But they weren’t. Even Politico, which is on the Obama Christmas mailing list, ripped her over her Libya gaffe. So did the Washington Post. So, in fact, did Candy Crowley.

    But according to Whitaker, who apparently reads his talking points from Media Matters each morning over a breakfast of non-fat organic yogurt and Kool-Aid, the only people who thought Crowley brutalized the debate were “Romney supporters.” Why? “No doubt because their man did not have as good a night as he had in Denver.

    Thanks for that, Stephanie Cutter. Those objective journalists at CNN are doing a stellar job of keeping their biases hidden.

    But it gets worse. Whitaker says that Crowley’s false fact check was “just stating a point of fact.” No, she wasn’t. She admitted as much later. So did much of the leftist, Obama-supporting media. She butchered the facts.

    But it gets even worse. Whitaker on the dramatic time imbalance in favor of Obama: “On why Obama got more time to speak, it should be noted that Candy and her commission producers tried to keep it even but that Obama went on longer largely because he speaks more slowly. We're going to do a word count to see whether, as in Denver, Romney actually got more words in even if he talked for a shorter period of time.”

    A word count?! If the number of words mattered more than the time count, Romney should have spoken incredibly slowly – he should have spoken at approximately two words a minute, then taken up 80 minutes of the debate. He’d have been gypped on time, according Whitaker – he’d only have spoken 160 words. If CNN is now going to account for speaking cadency, they’re punishing people who are articulate, and rewarding people who say “um” a lot. Call it Obama missing telemprompter affirmative action.

    CNN’s a joke. Candy Crowley’s a joke. They’re perfect for each other.

    Late this afternoon, TMZ reported a leaked email from CNN Managing Editor Mark Whitaker to the staff of CNN, defending disgraced second presidential debate moderator Candy Crowley.

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    2 vs 1 makes it a little tougher. He got cut off 28 times...28!

    The rest of the country disagree's with you about the 2nd debate, as far as it doing him "far more harm than good"? How?
    The rest of the country? Everything I have seen shows Obama winning the 2nd debate pretty decisively. I haven't seen a single thing that shows Romne won that one. In fact, the least damning thing I have seen shows it a deadlock, an that was only one place.

    As for more harm than good.... Do you pay attention to anything but Fox News? Maybe that's why your head is in the sand. He didn't do enough, IMO, to sway the undecided voters. He was not nearly a convincing as he was in the first debate. He wasn't specific enough about certain issues. And he didn't call out Obama nearly enough on failed policies. I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but one of the fact checkers said something like 70% of what he said were lies. When you consider the undecideds, all of that does not bode well for him.

    While Romney is better for the country than Obama, he's still a joke, and not what we need.

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    I've kept quiet on the most recent debate until now, but I thought Romney's performance was pretty pathetic. So many opportunities that he did not take advantage of. I never liked him much to begin with, but I detest Obama. Gained a little respect for him after the first debate. But this last one did far more harm than good, IMO.
    2 vs 1 makes it a little tougher. He got cut off 28 times...28!

    The rest of the country disagree's with you about the 2nd debate, as far as it doing him "far more harm than good"? How?

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  • Zfan
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    For the most part Union's have out lived their usefullness. Not to mention how crooked they are!

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  • bcoop
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    I've kept quiet on the most recent debate until now, but I thought Romney's performance was pretty pathetic. So many opportunities that he did not take advantage of. I never liked him much to begin with, but I detest Obama. Gained a little respect for him after the first debate. But this last one did far more harm than good, IMO.

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  • naynay
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    lol, from a hip hop stand point obama won that one too, but really Lincoln stole the show

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  • Forever_frost
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  • naynay
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    ____leveled____

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  • Geor!
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    Originally posted by BlackSnake View Post
    Obama get that one wrong too?
    Yep.

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  • BlackSnake
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    Originally posted by Geor! View Post
    OK never mind then.
    Obama get that one wrong too?

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  • Geor!
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    Originally posted by BlackSnake View Post
    Drop the "p" and add a "z" I believe.
    OK never mind then.

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  • BlackSnake
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    Originally posted by Geor! View Post
    How do you pronounce "Corpsman?"
    Drop the "p" and add a "z" I believe.

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  • Geor!
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    Originally posted by BlackSnake View Post
    Now, I know my faults. Painting houses doesn't require the same grammar expectancy that the oval office does.

    Just saying...
    How do you pronounce "Corpsman?"

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