Debate?

[davbrucas]

umm yes, the gravy train.. keep it rolling.

sorry im not a doctor, i am a blue collar man with a specific skill set, and specifically keeping a democrat in office benefits my trade.

Understood.

i must not be reading into that as deeply as you doc.. it all sounds like common sense to me.

also a quote has zero credibility if you do not care to cite who originally said the quote.

didn't you get yourself one of them new fangled cts-v's? Obummer did something right, right?

Doesnt matter who made the quote...just the content of it.

Yes, I bought a CTSV, but Obama had nothing to do with my success. Actually, I am doing well despite his policies, but I am not so sure how long this success will last given the current political climate. He has done more to harm this country than to help it.

[sc281]

The liberal bias thickens....

Crowley called Obama Admin out on not calling it as a terrorsit attack on SEPT 30th, specifically citing the rose garden speech and debunking it.


But that was before she was forced to defend Obama from a damning ending to a debate he needed to do good at.

Crowley to Axelrod: Obama Never Said Benghazi Attack Was 'Act of Terror'

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/16/Flashback-Crowley-To-Axelrod-Obama-Never-Said-Benghazi-Attack-Was-Act-Of-Terror-On-Day-After?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BreitbartFeed+%28Breitbart+Feed%29

Crowley to Axelrod: Obama Never Said Benghazi Attack Was 'Act of Terror'

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On CNN's "State of the Union" on September 30, Candy Crowley insisted David Axelrod, President Barack Obama's chief strategist, was wrong when Axelrod tried to claim President Barack Obama called the Benghazi attack "an act of terror" on the day after.
"First, they said it was not planned, it was part of this tape," Crowley said when Axelrod tried to spin her.

This was Crowley the journalist, unlike the pro-Obama advocate who moderated Tuesday's debate between Obama and Mitt Romney and interjected herself into an argument between Obama and Romney on the exact same issue -- and took Obama's side.

During the debate, Crowley affirmed Obama's assertion that he referred to the Benghazi attacks as acts of terror on the day after.

After Romney correctly said it took Obama 14 days before Obama said the the Benghazi attacks were acts of terror, Crowley took Obama's side -- to an ovation from the town hall audience -- and she proclaimed Obama had indeed claimed the Benghazi attacks were acts of terror the day after the attacks in the White House Rose Garden.

On September 12, the day after the attacks, Obama did say the words "acts of terror" but he was not referring to the attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens.

Crowley knew that on September 30 and she conceded it again hours after the debate when she went on CNN and said while Romney "was right in the main, but he just chose the wrong word." But the damage had already been done.

With Obama's reelection on the line, Crowley seemed to have conveniently forgotten the facts she knew two weeks before when she grilled Axelrod in a way she should have Obama.

Here is how Crowley questioned Axelrod then:

CROWLEY: ... There's a back and forth now about why didn't this administration -- why did it take them until Friday after a September 11th attack in Libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that there was terrorists involved. John McCain said it doesn't pass the smell test, or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. Your reaction?

AXELROD: Well, first of all, Candy, as you know, the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened. But when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration, then you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believes. This was -- this is being thoroughly investigated.

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When Axelrod tried to tell Crowley that the "president called it an act of terror the day after it happened," Crowley rejected the spin and corrected Axelrod, telling him that Obama said the the attacks were not "planned" and was "part of this tape," in reference to the obscure anti-Muhammad Internet video the Obama administration blamed:

CROWLEY: First, they said it was not planned, it was part of this tape. All that stuff.

AXELROD: As the director of national intelligence said on Friday, that was the original information that that was given to us. What we don't need is a president or an administration that shoots first and asks questions later.

Crowley then accused the Obama administration of shooting first (not telling Americans terrorists were behind the Benghazi attacks) and asking questions later, which is what Obama accused Romney of doing when Romney released a statement

CROWLEY: But isn't that what happened?

AXELROD: And, you know, Governor Romney leaped out on this Libya issue on the first day, and was terribly mistaken about what he said. That is not what you want in a president of the United States. And as for Senator McCain, for whom I have great respect, he has disapproved of our approach to Libya from the beginning, including the strategy that brought Gadhafi to justice.

Crowley then called out Axelrod's spin again, saying the administration initially insisted the terrorist attacks were not preplanned:

CROWLEY: But this has to do not with the approach to Libya but with the murder of four Americans in Libya. And didn't the administration shoot first? Didn't they come out and say, listen, as far as we can tell, this wasn't preplanned, this was just a part of --

AXELROD: At this point, this is what we know, and we are thoroughly investigating. And that's exactly what you should do. That's what the responsible thing to do is. I was kind of shocked to see Representative King attack Ambassador Rice for what she said last Sunday here and elsewhere, because she was acting on the intelligence that was given to her by the intelligence community. To say she should resign -- she is one of the most remarkable, splendid public servants we have. That's thoroughly irresponsible.

[naynay]

well, in the family we have a 05 GTO, '13 Escalade, '13 CTS-v, '11 Tahoe, and my 63 c10, so yeah 'we' support GM. but in all honesty I bought my ford and kinda fell in love with the quality of it. of course being the one to buck trends, now i have 3 fords sitting in the driveway, and just the lonely 63 sitting in the garage

[mustangguy289]

the dem's provided me with enough work to buy myself one of them fancy new 4 door f150 thingamajigs.. the 63 has been in the family for 32 years, nothing wrong with making it "cool" to pass down to my son, and i'll probably buy him a fancy new 2028 ford f150 thingamajig too.

You mean you don't support Government Motors?

[naynay]

Trucks are utility vehicles and it's stupid to bag them so they sit on the ground.
I don't know if you noticed that yet , so I figured I'd go ahead and give you a heads up.
But hey if society taught you this is cool , that makes it ok to be a dumbass.
Also black americans think it's cool to not be successful in 'white america' so you should probably quit your job too.
See what I did there?

the dem's provided me with enough work to buy myself one of them fancy new 4 door f150 thingamajigs.. the 63 has been in the family for 32 years, nothing wrong with making it "cool" to pass down to my son, and i'll probably buy him a fancy new 2028 ford f150 thingamajig too.

[naynay]

I lol'ed. And this coming from a guy that runs the US.

Sometimes I wonder what its like to live in another country and view the "dumbassery" that spues out the mouth of our leaders.

irony, not just made from iron!

[futant]

I have my 63 c10 thats bagged and getting an LS swap

Trucks are utility vehicles and it's stupid to bag them so they sit on the ground.
I don't know if you noticed that yet , so I figured I'd go ahead and give you a heads up.
But hey if society taught you this is cool , that makes it ok to be a dumbass.
Also black americans think it's cool to not be successful in 'white america' so you should probably quit your job too.
See what I did there?

[BlackSnake]

Being assertive does not make him the "winner".

Assertive? I thought he was being a arrogant dick!

[BlackSnake]

Did anyone else catch the bullshit Barry threw out early on about why gas was $1.80 a gallon when he came in? Because things were so bad with the economy, gas was cheap. Really? I literally fell off of the sofa. So when gas was a $1 a gallon in 1999, we must have been in a damn depression that I missed out on. Now that things are just GREAT, gas is $4 a gallon? I hope Americans aren't that stupid.

I lol'ed. And this coming from a guy that runs the US.

Sometimes I wonder what its like to live in another country and view the "dumbassery" that spues out the mouth of our leaders.

[naynay]

no i sold it to a guy in lafyette lousiana

I have my 63 c10 thats bagged and getting an LS swap and I am working on buying an 80's G-body to go drag racing with a turbo LSX

[Baron Von Crowder]

i must not be reading into that as deeply as you doc.. it all sounds like common sense to me.

also a quote has zero credibility if you do not care to cite who originally said the quote.

didn't you get yourself one of them new fangled cts-v's? Obummer did something right, right?

hey do you still have your E30?

[futant]

didn't you get yourself one of them new fangled cts-v's? Obummer did something right, right?

oh right , he didn't do that ....
like obama says , U didn't build that !

[naynay]

What do you think about this quote?

A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.

i must not be reading into that as deeply as you doc.. it all sounds like common sense to me.

also a quote has zero credibility if you do not care to cite who originally said the quote.

didn't you get yourself one of them new fangled cts-v's? Obummer did something right, right?

[naynay]

umm yes, the gravy train.. keep it rolling.

sorry im not a doctor, i am a blue collar man with a specific skill set, and specifically keeping a democrat in office benefits my trade.

[davbrucas]

Rodney, do you have any intelligent and viable reasons as to why you support the current administration? Or do you fall into the same category as the knuckle dragging mouth breathers that vote for him solely because his policies will ensure that their gravy train keeps rolling?

What do you think about this quote?

A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.