Gun Control Solutions

[Forever_frost]

Yes in a perfect scenario, again it would only take one accident, or a teenager overpowering a teacher with her back turned, because they knew she had a gun on her, and decided they wanted it.

Okay, biometric locked safe in her desk. Only her hand will open it and only she has access. Fixed. Total cost? Couple hundred bucks.

[Forever_frost]

So encase the schools in bullet proof glass and prison style doors?




Absolutely. The mother should not have been allowed to have any weapons in her house at all since she had an autistic child.

Sounds oh so reasonable. "You no longer have the constitutional right to defend yourself since your child is MR."

I buy it.

I was going to punch you in the head for agreeing but then I finished your post. Once you open that can of worms, then all it takes is a shrink or doctor to declare your child is X, or Y, or Z and you are defacto not allowed to own a weapon because of your child. With the new DSM 5 coming out, they are making EVERYTHING a mental disorder.

[JimD]

I work for a company that has a 30.06 sign on the gate as we enter. And at times I've questioned whether I'd risk my job vs my own personal safety because of it.

I'm not saying I have carried at work....

I did talk to the head of security, who is now the head of Ross Perots personal security when he was there, and his comment to me was, 'its against company policy is my official stance, but in a case where you could chose to lose you job or life, for me that's a simple choice. Just don't ever tell me your decision to carry here.'

Shit, I work for a gun nut, both of us carry and weapons are in several places in the shop(out of sight). There is only one way in, property is fenced and security cameras are on all the time. So, could someone come in an rob the place or shoot it up? Sure, but they more than likely will die trying it.

[Silverback]

Locked desk drawer, or they have to keep it on them at all times. Simple.

Yes in a perfect scenario, again it would only take one accident, or a teenager overpowering a teacher with her back turned, because they knew she had a gun on her, and decided they wanted it.

[Lason]

So encase the schools in bullet proof glass and prison style doors?

Sure, the school he broke into required people to be buzzed in so why not make those glass doors he broke using 1" thick bulletproof glass? Im not saying make it a supermax prison but make it tougher to get in.

[Forever_frost]

Get over yourself thinking you have all the right answers and no one else can bring ideas to the table.

edit:What does my screen name have to do with wanting security in schools? That has nothing to do with freedom. You would spend money on mental illness screening which would cost way more than more security for schools.

I can answer this: You're saying live free or die, yet calling for militarization of our schools by the military. You're also calling for hundreds of thousands of new cops and security being hired to police the schools in case an abnormality occurs. That means paying at least one, probably two or three cops to work only in that school, 5 days a week, 8 hours plus a day with pay and benefits when schools are laying off teachers because they can't afford them.

It'd be like Pelosi claiming to be a Catholic and then being pro abortion. Makes no sense

[Forever_frost]

Until a teacher leaves a gun in her purse, bag, or desk then gets called out of the room for something and an accident happens because a curious student found a gun.

While it's not going to be a common occurance it places an an unnecessary risk in the classroom.

Locked desk drawer, or they have to keep it on them at all times. Simple.

[mikec]

I think the best answer in this case is coming up with a better system to keep people out during school hours. What they had was decent but obviously easily beaten because they relied on simple glass to keep someone out.

So encase the schools in bullet proof glass and prison style doors?

Skimmed the thread

I dont see anybody addressing the fact that the most recent shooting was by somebody who is reported to have mental health issues by his own brother. Maybe its time to revise the specifics of the current laws so somebody with mental health issues who can be a danger to others must be identified to the police and FBI. As well addressing the laws so such a person doesnt have access to firearms especially those within the same household.

Absolutely. The mother should not have been allowed to have any weapons in her house at all since she had an autistic child.

Sounds oh so reasonable. "You no longer have the constitutional right to defend yourself since your child is MR."

I buy it.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

Skimmed the thread

I dont see anybody addressing the fact that the most recent shooting was by somebody who is reported to have mental health issues by his own brother. Maybe its time to revise the specifics of the current laws so somebody with mental health issues who can be a danger to others must be identified to the police and FBI. As well addressing the laws so such a person doesnt have access to firearms especially those within the same household.

[Lason]

Although Im the belief of that the more people who conceal carry the safer the general populas is, I dont think forcing teachers to carry is the answer. All your doing is providing possible access to weapons to large groups of kids. All it will take is one screw up by a teacher and one kid who is hormonal and unhappy about something.

I think the best answer in this case is coming up with a better system to keep people out during school hours. What they had was decent but obviously easily beaten because they relied on simple glass to keep someone out.

[bucky]

This shooting and most before it have nothing to do with gun control and everything to do with mental health issues and people falling thru the cracks and not being able to get the help they need. The problem will get worse as more soldiers return from combat with PTSD and can't find the help they need. But let the libs keep screaming about "assault" weapons and extended magazines while ignoring the real problems.

[YALE]

Get over yourself thinking you have all the right answers and no one else can bring ideas to the table.

edit:What does my screen name have to do with wanting security in schools? That has nothing to do with freedom. You would spend money on mental illness screening which would cost way more than more security for schools.

I'm saying that it's ironic that you have that screen name, and are clammoring for more federal oversight. I'm also saying that if you're dead set on adding it, why not make it pro-active, rather than reactive?

EDIT: You know what really bugs me about this whole thing? The idea that we need to be protected from every percieved threat. Not just this, but any threat anywhere. I think it's bullshit. We're not fucking cattle. We don't need to be herded around by shepherds we put in place over ourselves. We should face life head on, and embrace its challenges.

[samuel642000]

Put a Military Policemen in each school in America. Make it an assignment. They are trained to protect and do active shooter drills a lot. Lets take some of these guys we are waisting training retards over seas and stick them in our schools, so the last thing our precious children see is some emo shit stain firing a gun at them.

I've been around MP's (majority were E5 and E6) that I had to give training to on how to clean an M4. I wouldn't trust MP's to keep me safe, much less my baby.

[Broncojohnny]

You can't really have something that requires school teachers to carry, there are a lot of scared old ladies in that profession who can't handle a gun.

[Sean88gt]

Solutions.....relinquish NOTHING in terms of freedom to the government. What happened is a shitty deal, but fuck those scanvengers in DC for even thinking about raping us.

You can't regulate being an asshole.