Obama Playing Chicken with American Men

[Forever_frost]

I call a large number of them prior military.

That'd be because power is addictive. I'd call them active police.

[JamisonFRC]

Hey, what else do you call a group of people who, when the citizens are forced to have 7 rounds still can carry as much as they like? Or are provided with APC's and 'assault weapons?' Or can speed with impunity? Or can enter your home knowing if you draw on them, you're dead.

I call a large number of them prior military.

[JamisonFRC]

I just question the reserve of the guys that make these promises while they are the authority and legally carrying weapons, when it comes to being a criminal by decision and having the authority point guns at them. As has been said before, it is one thing to say it, another to do it. At this point, I am trying to figure out how to secure the safety of my family for WHEN it happens, not IF it happens. It WILL happen, just a matter of time. The pot is getting hot and the frogs can't tell.

Stevo

I agree with you 100% . This will be line in the sand. America will never be the same.

[Forever_frost]

I could possibly see that for our "duty" weapons. But I can't see them giving a pass for our personal weapons.

But I'm sure you are right. We are an elite class. Leave it to Frost to take a stab at LEO when everyone of us in this thread are saying we are with the People.

Hey, what else do you call a group of people who, when the citizens are forced to have 7 rounds still can carry as much as they like? Or are provided with APC's and 'assault weapons?' Or can speed with impunity? Or can enter your home knowing if you draw on them, you're dead.

[stevo]

I know it is the "us against them" mentality. I realize that everyone has had their bad experience with the law (ask me about mine some time). But it's just a job. My character comes first.

If it ever gets to the point that weapons are being confiscated, a job really won't matter much to any of us. That's why you think cops will just follow orders right? They don't want to lose their jobs?

As Sean McConnell wrote "money's just money".

It truly will be "us vs them". If they come for my guns, better bring a lunch. I have a family to protect.

Do me a favor and read what Paul Howe wrote on the subject of confiscation.

I just question the reserve of the guys that make these promises while they are the authority and legally carrying weapons, when it comes to being a criminal by decision and having the authority point guns at them. As has been said before, it is one thing to say it, another to do it. At this point, I am trying to figure out how to secure the safety of my family for WHEN it happens, not IF it happens. It WILL happen, just a matter of time. The pot is getting hot and the frogs can't tell.

Stevo

[JamisonFRC]

What you are saying now, and what you will be saying when it becomes time for "every one of you" in this thread to willingly decide to become felons, may not be the same thing. And what Frost is referring to is the fact that cops tend to protect their own, please do not attempt to tell us that it never happens....

Stevo

I know it is the "us against them" mentality. I realize that everyone has had their bad experience with the law (ask me about mine some time). But it's just a job. My character comes first.

If it ever gets to the point that weapons are being confiscated, a job really won't matter much to any of us. That's why you think cops will just follow orders right? They don't want to lose their jobs?

As Sean McConnell wrote "money's just money".

It truly will be "us vs them". If they come for my guns, better bring a lunch. I have a family to protect.

Do me a favor and read what Paul Howe wrote on the subject of confiscation.

[stevo]

I could possibly see that for our "duty" weapons. But I can't see them giving a pass for our personal weapons.

But I'm sure you are right. We are an elite class. Leave it to Frost to take a stab at LEO when everyone of us in this thread are saying we are with the People.

What you are saying now, and what you will be saying when it becomes time for "every one of you" in this thread to willingly decide to become felons, may not be the same thing. And what Frost is referring to is the fact that cops tend to protect their own, please do not attempt to tell us that it never happens....

Stevo

[Chili]

Jester, that's why the 506th's motto is "Stands Alone." We all do.

[JamisonFRC]

Ah, but they make exceptions for cops for some damned reason. Cops won't be felons, can't get felon cops to arrest citizens so it just won't apply to them. They're also the same group that throws a fit when they have to follow laws that apply to citizens such as speeding, magazine regulations and those pesky warrant laws.

I could possibly see that for our "duty" weapons. But I can't see them giving a pass for our personal weapons.

But I'm sure you are right. We are an elite class. Leave it to Frost to take a stab at LEO when everyone of us in this thread are saying we are with the People.

[Forever_frost]

Ah, but they make exceptions for cops for some damned reason. Cops won't be felons, can't get felon cops to arrest citizens so it just won't apply to them. They're also the same group that throws a fit when they have to follow laws that apply to citizens such as speeding, magazine regulations and those pesky warrant laws.

[JamisonFRC]

Not trying to argue, but there is state law prohibiting "machine guns". See PC 46.02.

Technically we don't enforce the Federal law. I've referred cases to the feds so they can prosecute for weapons violations. Before you get up in arms, haha, about it, the guy was a dope dealer and shot a guy seven times in a parking lot over a traffic accident. He had an illegal (non NFA) short barrel shotgun and all kinds of dope in his apartment. When we arrested him he had a stolen 9mm (from Houston) on his person.

As far as I know the State never brought charges against him. He did get 10 years fed.

The bottom line is I truly believe if it comes down to "door to door" confiscation the majority of LEO will not participate. In the grand scheme of things we will be labeled as "felons" right along with our neighbors. I don't know one of my co-workers that doesn't own an AR.

[Jester]

Sorry if I sound a little skeptical. You enforce federal laws now. If you caught some one with a M-16 (not AR-15) without a class III license you would arrest them. Show me in 2A where it discriminates against any weapon please. You know, the constitution, the thing you swear an oath to.

If the feds re-classified all semi-auto's as class III you would do the same as your doing now. Violating your oath. So you can keep on getting your pay check.

Sorry man, that's just the reality of it.

But if you really are one that would stand up and say no......I'm with you 100%
If not.......Oh well. right.

That's a damned good point...

[tazz007]

I will tell you that of all the local, county and state peace officers I know, myself included, will not cooperate with any federal firearm registration/confiscation program.

Sorry if I sound a little skeptical. You enforce federal laws now. If you caught some one with a M-16 (not AR-15) without a class III license you would arrest them. Show me in 2A where it discriminates against any weapon please. You know, the constitution, the thing you swear an oath to.

If the feds re-classified all semi-auto's as class III you would do the same as your doing now. Violating your oath. So you can keep on getting your pay check.

Sorry man, that's just the reality of it.

But if you really are one that would stand up and say no......I'm with you 100%
If not.......Oh well. right.

[Forever_frost]

Jester, that's why the 506th's motto is "Stands Alone." We all do.

[Jester]

I dont give two shits who shows up to my door, Marine or not.......they are gonna have a bad day.
Some of these fuckign idiot jarheads need to remember that Semper Fi does not mean Always Faithful to the cocksucker in charge.............it means always faithful to freedom and protecting it.