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  • KBScobravert
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    Originally posted by JamisonFRC View Post
    Convicted felons made their choice. Contrary to popular belief a convicted felon can still be in possession of a firearm under certain circumstances.
    I understand where you stand on that TODAY but what about in the future when we all get labeled convicted felon?

    So my whole life I have always tried to do the right thing for many reasons. One reason being, I like to keep all my Rights. I have always understood that Felons are those that loose some of theirs; like the Right to keep and bare arms. Now it looks as if living the life of a law abiding citizen I may end up a Felon if I disobey our government as they try to strip that Right from me when I have not done anything wrong. I guess this will be the Government's way of making US taste the medicine Felon's taste every day. But where is the fairness in that? I still haven't done anything wrong.

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  • svauto-erotic855
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    Originally posted by JamisonFRC View Post

    Convicted felons made their choice. Contrary to popular belief a convicted felon can still be in possession of a firearm under certain circumstances.
    Most states completely restore a person rights after they complete the term of their sentence; thus giving a felon the right to own a firearm again. That just isn't the case in TX; but that doesn't have anything to do with the point that I was making.

    For the first 192 years of our countries existence there was not a class of prohibited persons when it comes to possession of firearms. The American people were tricked into giving the federal government control of our access to firearms in 1968 with the promise from the Feds that they would never interfere with anyone other then the listed prohibited persons in the law. What the American people never imagined is that the class would be expanded eventually to include everyone. The anti gun crowd in 1968 planned to use the GCA to completely eliminate ALL private firearm ownership in the USA by the mid 80's. The kick back from the NRA a short time after the GCA passed (which the NRA backed in the first place) was never anticipated by the antis and the fight has been on ever since.

    The GCA has been the law of the land for all of my life and I'd guess all of yours as well but that doesn't make it right even if you have been brain washed into believing that some citizens should be treated differently when it comes to firearms ownership. Free your mind and realize that you have been lied to by the government.

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  • JamisonFRC
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    Originally posted by svo855 View Post
    But will you arrest a prohibited person whom you find is possession of a firearm such as a felon or someone under a restraining order? What if the class of prohibited persons keeps getting larger?

    The same federal power grab (68 GCA) that they promised would end all gun crime was sold to the public by telling the public that it would only apply to criminals. That SAME law is the law that they will use to make every citizen a prohibited person. If you support any part of it you are just as guilty as if you support all of it.

    The progressives think long term and this is just a case of heating the water slowly to keep the frog in the pot.
    Restraining orders mean squat. If you're talking about a protective order then yes, I would enforce it. It is a "shall" arrest.

    As it stands right now, in Texas, I'm ok with the firearm laws. I still think NFA items should go away. Meaning I think it's stupid to be required to pay $200 to be allowed to own an SBR or suppressor.

    Convicted felons made their choice. Contrary to popular belief a convicted felon can still be in possession of a firearm under certain circumstances.

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  • svauto-erotic855
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    Originally posted by JP135 View Post
    I will tell you that of all the local, county and state peace officers I know, myself included, will not cooperate with any federal firearm registration/confiscation program.

    The majority of military personnel I know feel the same.
    But will you arrest a prohibited person whom you find is possession of a firearm such as a felon or someone under a restraining order? What if the class of prohibited persons keeps getting larger?

    The same federal power grab (68 GCA) that they promised would end all gun crime was sold to the public by telling the public that it would only apply to criminals. That SAME law is the law that they will use to make every citizen a prohibited person. If you support any part of it you are just as guilty as if you support all of it.

    The progressives think long term and this is just a case of heating the water slowly to keep the frog in the pot.

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  • TexasT
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    Originally posted by Downs View Post
    I know at least 5 Marines that wouldn't have a problem confiscating weapons. One of them was from Chicago and said at work that he doesn't think anyone but police and military should have guns. Said there was nothing he couldn't handle with a baseball bat.

    Another said he thought Americans had too many freedoms. I almost punched him in the face but we were at work and resort to yelling at him about his oath and how saying something like that was a violation of the same.
    Tell that sorry excuse for a Marine, "Dont bring a baseball bat to a gun fight." His views obviously don't run with the oath he took to uphold the U.S. Constitution.

    Then again, he is from Chicago, home of the victim. No wonder he joined the military, he didnt want to be one any longer.

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  • stevo
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    Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
    I'm sure that is why Obummer is working on creating his own little army of faithful soldiers and snitches with that program that he started up, which the media no longer mentions.
    Well he did just EO'd his way into having 'deputy doctors' to do a lot of his dirty work.

    Stevo

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  • Sgt Beavis
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    Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
    No, dude.

    Not on this one.
    Heh, that made me chuckle.. but you are right.

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  • BMCSean
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    I don't know of any soldiers thinking like that but I have met a pair of Marines who espoused the same ideas. No logic behind it, nothing. Just "people don't need military weapons." When I explained the constitution, it was like talking to a wall
    It's because you're white.

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  • Downs
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    Originally posted by ceyko View Post
    How old and educated on the subject are they? I've said it before, but it was maybe 10 years ago before I became pro-gun and it was total ignorance on my part.
    Old enough and educated enough to read the Constitution and understand WTF their Oath meant when they took it.

    Both were Sgts at the time they said these things. One is out the other is sitll a Sgt. in my current unit.

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  • Gtracer
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    I don't know of any soldiers thinking like that but I have met a pair of Marines who espoused the same ideas. No logic behind it, nothing. Just "people don't need military weapons." When I explained the constitution, it was like talking to a wall
    JAR-HEAD...

    But, not too say that all are the same, I think a few smart ones just get mixed in with the wrong group

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by Downs View Post
    I know at least 5 Marines that wouldn't have a problem confiscating weapons. One of them was from Chicago and said at work that he doesn't think anyone but police and military should have guns. Said there was nothing he couldn't handle with a baseball bat.

    Another said he thought Americans had too many freedoms. I almost punched him in the face but we were at work and resort to yelling at him about his oath and how saying something like that was a violation of the same.
    I don't know of any soldiers thinking like that but I have met a pair of Marines who espoused the same ideas. No logic behind it, nothing. Just "people don't need military weapons." When I explained the constitution, it was like talking to a wall

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  • ceyko
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    Originally posted by Downs View Post
    I know at least 5 Marines that wouldn't have a problem confiscating weapons. One of them was from Chicago and said at work that he doesn't think anyone but police and military should have guns. Said there was nothing he couldn't handle with a baseball bat.

    Another said he thought Americans had too many freedoms. I almost punched him in the face but we were at work and resort to yelling at him about his oath and how saying something like that was a violation of the same.
    How old and educated on the subject are they? I've said it before, but it was maybe 10 years ago before I became pro-gun and it was total ignorance on my part.

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  • Downs
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    Originally posted by Fatass View Post
    I hope more feel the same.
    I know at least 5 Marines that wouldn't have a problem confiscating weapons. One of them was from Chicago and said at work that he doesn't think anyone but police and military should have guns. Said there was nothing he couldn't handle with a baseball bat.

    Another said he thought Americans had too many freedoms. I almost punched him in the face but we were at work and resort to yelling at him about his oath and how saying something like that was a violation of the same.

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  • line-em-up
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    Originally posted by JP135 View Post
    I will tell you that of all the local, county and state peace officers I know, myself included, will not cooperate with any federal firearm registration/confiscation program.

    The majority of military personnel I know feel the same.
    I'm sure that is why Obummer is working on creating his own little army of faithful soldiers and snitches with that program that he started up, which the media no longer mentions.

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  • Fatass
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    Originally posted by JP135 View Post
    I will tell you that of all the local, county and state peace officers I know, myself included, will not cooperate with any federal firearm registration/confiscation program.

    The majority of military personnel I know feel the same.
    I hope more feel the same.

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