Parting gift from Panetta

[CexMashean]

Women in combat, can't believe this is happening in my life time. Reminds me of Starship Troopers. What other country allows women in combat? Israel??

You can spot a Busey from a mile away.

[Forever_frost]

Frost touched on this but they have seperate PT standards for women and men, no way will they have the same standards. I see a major drop in morale from bitter males in regards to women getting rotated to the back every month for their cycle.

Not to mention the EO complaints because of how we talk in the field, the increase of in theater pregnancy, and if they decide to tough it out, they're going to burn through our IV kits with antibiotics from their UTI's and infections and other shit. If our position is overrun, they're going to be raped and used for leverage. Hell, they'll get a lot of their platoon killed trying to get them back because a woman's scream....it will fuck with you.

[Downs]

The Marine Corps tried to let a few females into the Platoon Leader's course (grunt stuff) and they all dropped out.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katiedrummond/2012/10/16/marine-corps-women/

I could have swore there was more than 2 but oh well.

[Forever_frost]

Women aren't built for it. Lower bone density, lower muscle density. They're not built to do the heavy lifting for long periods of time and being in the dirt, mud, sand and sweat for weeks without a shower and no privacy. They let women on the front lines, they're going to want their own showers, own restrooms, own tents. Bad for unit cohesion

[KBScobravert]

I hate to burst all the grunt bubbles in here BUT, out of all the camps in theater (afghanistan) there are women on 75% of them. So the other 25% get the same oppurtunity that the first 75% get, big deal. They go on combat patrols (mounted and dissmounted). They are in the towers, they are on the ECPs, they are in the vehicles, they are in virtually every roll that dudes are in. Just because they are not 11's they still patrol next to them in other rolls already. If a chick doesn't want to be an 11 or such that is the choice she has. If she is and can't hack it, that is her carrier.

The rest of the Army has to suffer with the having them in their fields, now the grunts will have that to complain about too. And in my opinion a grunt that complains is a happy one. This is one more bitch for them (no pun intended).

[Forever_frost]

If they're in an 11 role, they should do away with the female PT scores and have one standard. And rewrite the draft laws to require women to register for the draft. Equality in all, not just as they choose

[KBScobravert]

The Marine Corps tried to let a few females into the Platoon Leader's course (grunt stuff) and they all dropped out.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katiedrummond/2012/10/16/marine-corps-women/

I could have swore there was more than 2 but oh well.

I have met plenty of WMs that were tougher than most males. Those 2 joined for a political statement and got what they deserved, washed out. I knew this chick who was a former Marine. She used to bitch about all the guys leaving their spit cans everywhere "If you pussies can't swallow it you shouldn't be dipping" is what she would say with a big wad of Copenhagen in her lip.

[samuel642000]

If they're in an 11 role, they should do away with the female PT scores and have one standard. And rewrite the draft laws to require women to register for the draft. Equality in all, not just as they choose

Exactly, they(females) for damn sure don't want equality.

[SlowLX]

I have no problem with it as long as they are held to the EXACT same standards as the men.

Ill have no problem with a chick in a combat unit the minute she can fireman carry a 180-200lb man with full gear.

[LANTIRN]

Already enough blood in combat; no need to add more.

[mikec]

[helosailor]

The Navy just announced that they have selected the first women (officer and enlisted) to serve aboard submarines. Not to worry though for our bubblehead board members, they will be on Virginia class boats. They also announced that women will comprise a significant portion of the crew on all combatant ships with the exception of frigates and older types of submarines due to berthing compatability issues. Funny that they added the last part, women have already been on surface combatants for years.

[jw33]

I have no problem with it as long as the training and requirements are exactly the same between male/female. If they are in the rear with the gear then let them keep their 1.5 mile run and chin-hang PFT bullshit. They are very few and far between, but I have seen some squared away WM in the fleet. I have no problem with them as long as they do their job.

As for military conscription or the draft, I'm against it in almost every form.