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  • Pokulski-Blatz
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    Oh look, you're no more qualified than I in that aspect. And just because you served, it doesn't make you a hero. Doing heroic shit makes you a hero.

    You are basing your opinion on what? Your massive knowledge base regarding what I have done with my life? Give me a fucking break.

    Too many times someone much like yourself starts getting loud about something related to the military and the question is poised ... Have you ever served? Guess what, most of them come back with the same bull shit that you spewed earlier about how they were going to go in or almost shipped out but decided not to or was DQed last minute. You decided not to join because you are a fucking pussy, no other reason. If you had a issue with your contract you would have found a way to fix it or grew a fucking pair of balls and served anyway.

    Make your own assumptions about my past if you like, it just makes you more of a god damned moron in my eyes.

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by Pokulski-Blatz View Post
    Awesome! One of the ''almost heros''

    This explains a lot.
    Oh look, you're no more qualified than I in that aspect. And just because you served, it doesn't make you a hero. Doing heroic shit makes you a hero.


    Originally posted by Jester View Post
    Would you wear a Mongols or a Hells Angels colors(upper/lower rockers) for the world to see, even though you are not a member?
    If I wanted to I would.

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  • Pokulski-Blatz
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    I come from a military family, and was set to ship to MCRD San Diego until I read my contract before signing and saw that my recruiter lied to me and was trying to send me open contract. As in, sitting inside MEPS, leaving that day.
    Awesome! One of the ''almost heros''

    This explains a lot.

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  • Jester
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    Would you wear a Mongols or a Hells Angels colors(upper/lower rockers) for the world to see, even though you are not a member?

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  • Forever_frost
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    Except for the fact that this isn't a book, it's a medal that belongs to the DoD and an insignia of the DoD you'd be right. If you are wearing accurate military uniform with medals, you are engaging in not only copyright issues, you're also committing fraud, passing yourself off as a certain branch.

    There are rules that come with those medals and insignia. US code and the Constitution agrees with me. Cheers.

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Those medals and branch insignia were designed and owned by the DoD and the specific branches. They may make decisions on how they are used and when. They have stated that they are for official use only. Completely within their right as the holders of the copyright. If you'd like to discuss the length of time they may hold that before it becomes free use, by all means but that's how it's constitutional.

    As I said all along, remove the insignia and medals and you're golden
    You should learn more about copyrights and how they work. Just because you have a copyright on something doesn't mean you have complete control over that particular item for as long as it exists. Once you sell a given item, it's up to the buyer to determine what they do with it, within certain bounds.

    For instance, if I buy a book, I'm free to read that book every, and anywhere I choose. The copyright holder cannot determine what I do with the book, outside of reproduction. I can take that same book and sell it to another person without breaking any laws or owing the copyright holder any royalties. And you can even reproduce the works, under fair use guidelines.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
    Ummm... dude?
    Those medals and branch insignia were designed and owned by the DoD and the specific branches. They may make decisions on how they are used and when. They have stated that they are for official use only. Completely within their right as the holders of the copyright. If you'd like to discuss the length of time they may hold that before it becomes free use, by all means but that's how it's constitutional.

    As I said all along, remove the insignia and medals and you're golden

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  • Strychnine
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Would be under copyright
    Ummm... dude?

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Just checked the Constitution. Nothing in it about military garb.
    Would be under copyright

    Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution, known as the Copyright Clause, empowers the United States Congress:

    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

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  • talisman
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    Just checked the Constitution. Nothing in it about military garb.

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  • exlude
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    Precedent, while not specific about this case, does weigh heavily against it. It can't be challenged until someone tries to enforce it. And that information is interesting, stuff I didn't know. I'd bet my money they would never care until it falls into commercial domain.

    I'm still boggled that you think this is constitutional in light of everything you think is unconstitutional.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    Your argument was that the law was enforceable and in full effect, when it's not. It's not enforceable, and it's not in effect. I can wear your exact uniform, down to rank, insignia, name, and all medals and there isn't anything anyone could legally do to stop me as long as I wasn't committing fraud.
    Actually I was arguing that there's a law against it. I'm right. It hasn't been removed despite discretion on prosecution. It's absolutely enforceable and it's in effect. I asked you to show me it being struck down or repealed. You provided neither. As usual.

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Precedent? Doesn't apply until it's been challenged. Until then, shut your pie hole
    Your argument was that the law was enforceable and in full effect, when it's not. It's not enforceable, and it's not in effect. I can wear your exact uniform, down to rank, insignia, name, and all medals and there isn't anything anyone could legally do to stop me as long as I wasn't committing fraud.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Precedent? Doesn't apply until it's been challenged. Until then, shut your pie hole

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    No, they didn't. They struck down Stolen Valor, not the US Code. Put up or shut up. Show me the repeal of the law I stated.
    Start here, pull your head out of your ass.

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