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Read the post. All the context is there.Originally posted by The King View PostWhat do these "things you could think of off the top of your head" have to do with Christianity, or Islam for that matter, 'hatter?
I never made this claim, nor is it relevant to the statement that you quoted. There are christians that do terrible things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do terrible things in the name of their religion. There are christians who do great things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do great things in the name of their religion. That doesn't change what the religion itself actually states/supports.Originally posted by SS Junk View PostChristians are beheading non-believers now?Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.
If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.
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anyone that does not agree with this, please post up. i like to know who im dealing with.Originally posted by Maddhattter View PostThere are christians that do terrible things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do terrible things in the name of their religion. There are christians who do great things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do great things in the name of their religion. That doesn't change what the religion itself actually states/supports.
god bless.It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick Douglass
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All i can say is youve got a LOT to learn, hatter. Im done with big long argument; i made my point. Youre another one of those know it all guys like exlude, everyone who disagrees with you must be giving you some kind of logical fallacy, and blah blah blah. Im not even going to read all that happy horsesh1t. Just go to youtube. Spend some time there watching videos on Islam. Here i'll help you. Just watch this ONE video. I beg of you
Last edited by Gasser64; 10-16-2014, 08:48 AM.WH
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LOL!!Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostAll i can say is youve got a LOT to learn, hatter. Im done with big long argument; i made my point. Just go to youtube. Spend some time there watching videos on Islam. Here i'll help you. Just watch this ONE video. I beg of you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6st_tFj6ouM
Seriously? I have a lot to learn and you're recommending random YouTube videos as the educational tool to learn? That is the singular most pathetic response I think I've ever gotten.
I recommend that you actually learn something about religions. Don't go to YouTube. Go to the source. Read their holy books. Learn what the books actually say, what they support, what they condemn.
Above all, even if you ignore everything else I've said/posted, do yourself a favor and actually educate yourself.
UPDATE: Against my better judgement, I took the time to watch the video. Based on it's contents, I'm just going to assume that you're just trolling. That's the kindest thing I can do in this situation.Last edited by Maddhattter; 10-16-2014, 09:37 AM.Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.
If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.
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Those aren't "real" muslims. Hey, if Christianity can use it, the rest of the worlds religions shouldn't be exempt, right?Originally posted by SS Junk View PostChristians are beheading non-believers now?
Originally posted by Maddhattter View PostThere are christians that do terrible things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do terrible things in the name of their religion. There are christians who do great things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do great things in the name of their religion. That doesn't change what the religion itself actually states/supports.
This.
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If you think its random and cant see why i would post it, then i was right i really dont have much reason to converse with you. That is becoming more and more clear. You denounced that he was a warlord saying there was no proof... ugh. As usual arguing with a libbie is like arguing with a 5 yr old. But moving on... in other words you didnt really watch it, and you dont believe that uploaders verified source, which is of course the book. Gotcha. You are like 19 or 20 right? I can tell by your repliesOriginally posted by Maddhattter View PostLOL!!
Seriously? I have a lot to learn and you're recommending random YouTube videos as the educational tool to learn? That is the singular most pathetic response I think I've ever gotten.
I recommend that you actually learn something about religions. Don't go to YouTube. Go to the source. Read their holy books. Learn what the books actually say, what they support, what they condemn.
Above all, even if you ignore everything else I've said/posted, do yourself a favor and actually educate yourself.
UPDATE: Against my better judgement, I took the time to watch the video. Based on it's contents, I'm just going to assume that you're just trolling. That's the kindest thing I can do in this situation.WH
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Another straw-man here. I never said it was random. The video is just too stupid to be taken seriously. So, based on the video and it's contents, I'm assuming you're just being a troll.Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostIf you think its random and cant see why i would post it, then i was right i really dont have much reason to converse with you.
Yep. The only actual information we have on him is the Quran, and other documents that came decades after his supposed death. Much like Jesus, there's no contemporary evidence. However, if we're to assume the documentation is accurate, leading people to reclaim land & property stolen from them does not make one a warlord. Neither does some guy in a video calling him one.Originally posted by Gasser64You denounced that he was a warlord saying there was no proof... ugh.
I'm not going to apologize about not pretending that someone exists when there is no evidence that they did.Originally posted by Gasser64As usual arguing with a libbie is like arguing with a 5 yr old.
Oh, I watched the video. At best, it illustrates that there are contradictions in the quran. So, what? There are numerous instances of contradictions in the bible. Muslims will go through the same type of verbal and mental gymnastics that christians will to try and hand-waive the contradictions away. Also, the quran states that the people would remove his aorta if he were to be found lying, not that god would and saying that I can feel a poison stabbing into my heart is not the same as being stabbed in the heard. Just because a guy in a YouTube says something, doesn't make it true. At this point, I'm just going to continue to assume you're trolling because I'd rather not assume you're just that stupid until you demonstrate it.Originally posted by Gasser64But moving on... in other words you didnt really watch it, and you dont believe that uploaders verified source, which is of course the book. Gotcha. You are like 19 or 20 right? I can tell by your repliesScientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.
If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.
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Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostIf you think its random and cant see why i would post it, then i was right i really dont have much reason to converse with you. That is becoming more and more clear. You denounced that he was a warlord saying there was no proof... ugh. As usual arguing with a libbie is like arguing with a 5 yr old. But moving on... in other words you didnt really watch it, and you dont believe that uploaders verified source, which is of course the book. Gotcha. You are like 19 or 20 right? I can tell by your replies
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You stated "Islam is no more "kill anyone who disagrees" than christianity is." I am a Christian and have been all my life. I have never had the urge nor have I been instructed to kill non-believers. Have you seen groups of Christians forming and executing those in the name of Jesus Christ? Exactly what terrible things is it Christians do in the name of their religion? I'd like to know what it is I am doing that is the same as killing a non-believer?Originally posted by Maddhattter View PostI never made this claim, nor is it relevant to the statement that you quoted.
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I did.Originally posted by SS JunkYou stated "Islam is no more "kill anyone who disagrees" than christianity is."
Anecdote != evidence. However, if you've not been instructed to kill non-believers you've not taken your orders from the bible.Originally posted by SS JunkI am a Christian and have been all my life. I have never had the urge nor have I been instructed to kill non-believers.
To save us both time, you can refer to this thread where an explanation has been made and all the hand-waving has already been done for you.
There are examples of this in this thread. No need for me to repeat others.Originally posted by SS JunkHave you seen groups of Christians forming and executing those in the name of Jesus Christ? Exactly what terrible things is it Christians do in the name of their religion?
Since your post was nothing more than a reworded version of your initial post, I'm just going to give you a reworded version of my response...Originally posted by SS JunkI'd like to know what it is I am doing that is the same as killing a non-believer?
I never made any of these claims except the first, nor are they relevant to the statement that you quoted. There are christians that do terrible things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do terrible things in the name of their religion. There are christians who do great things in the name of their religion, and there are muslims who do great things in the name of their religion. That doesn't change what the religion itself actually states/supports.Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.
If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.
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