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  • Automakers want to make working on your own car illegal

    One of the inherent rights of owning a vehicle is the ability to get on one’s backside — a wrench in one hand and a grease rag in the other, and just tinker to your little heart’s desire. Since the vehicle was invented, it’s been an important facet within the community of gearheads.

    General Motors — the same company responsible for 87 deaths related to faulty ignition switches, FYI — wants to take that right away from you citing safety and security issues. Along with a few other big names.

    It’s called the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). It’s been around since 2000 and started as anti-Internet piracy legislation. But automakers want to use it to try and make working on your own car illegal. Yes, illegal. The general premise is that unlike cars of the past, today’s vehicles are so advanced and use such a large amount of software and coding in their general makeup, altering said code could be dangerous and possibly even malicious.

    Listing the vehicle as a “mobile computing device,” the law would hypothetically protect automakers from pesky owners looking to alter any sort of technology in the vehicle that relates to the onboard computer. Flashing your ECU would be a big no no, which could also lead to all sorts of problems for aftermarket shops.

    What GM, and even tractor companies like John Deere, argues is that you, as an owner, don’t actually own your car. Rather, you’re sort of just borrowing it for an extended amount of time and paying for the rights to use the technology. If it sounds ridiculous— it is. But it gets even more ludicrous.

    According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, John Deere argued that “letting people modify car computer systems will result in them pirating music through the on-board entertainment system.”

    That’s right— pirating music. Through a tractor.

    DMCA does give a little bit of leeway, though. While the act could hypothetically lock customers out of key safety features, it would still allow owners the ability to repair other areas of the vehicle’s onboard computer as they see fit. It’s a slim compromise, but one that may be more closely based in reality.

    As it currently sits, there are 13 (!) large automakers on the list supporting the DMCA. Want to know who they are? Of course you do:

    General Motors Company
    BMW Group
    FCA US LLC
    Ford Motor Company
    Jaguar Land Rover
    Mazda
    Mercedes-Benz USA
    Mitsubishi Motors
    Porsche
    Toyota
    Volkswagen Group of America
    Volvo Cars North America

    Ironically, one of the brands that relies most on technology in its vehicles — Tesla Motors — in not in support of DMCA. While other American companies like GM, Ford and Chrysler all agree that working on your own vehicle should be punishable by law.

    Funny how three brands that pride themselves on American ingenuity don’t want customers to work on their cars.
    "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

  • #2
    I think every year, less and less people work on their cars, so most people won't even care.

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    • #3
      Greed. It all comes down to greed. Many of the OEMs have, for years, been trying to figure out a way to monopolize the parts and service for their vehicles. No big surprise that the "Big 3" have led that charge. When the Moss-Magnuson Act took a lot of wind out of their sales, they started to search for another angle. Think all of those electronics in vehicles are for the comfort and convenience of the consumer? Think again.
      "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by helosailor View Post
        took a lot of wind out of their sales
        Pun intended?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Fordblue625 View Post
          Pun intended?
          Indeed it was. Good catch.
          "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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          • #6
            Such a stupid idea, and it won't change anything. Most people will take it in for computer problems anyway. They don't need legislation to do this. All the individual companies have to do is change their warranty policy that any changes in software (or whatever they want to "protect") voids the warranty. They already do that on some things anyway.
            I don't like Republicans, but I really FUCKING hate Democrats.


            Sex with an Asian woman is great, but 30 minutes later you're horny again.

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            • #7
              That's one of the many reasons my daily is a 25 year old fox body.

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              • #8
                Stupid as hell.

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                • #9
                  If they ever got it passed, what would be the limit? As soon as the warranty runs out, you're free to work on it yourself? Cause at that point, what would be the point? Sure they can get greedy, but them being greedy doesn't automatically put money in people's pockets. Most people don't have the spare scratch to be able to afford dealership prices, not to mention the sheer volume of vehicles needing repairs would seem to be more than all dealers combined could handle. Granted this article does seem to be geared more towards computer/electronics work done to the vehicle.

                  However as I'm sure you all remember, every once in awhile, they try this with ALL parts and labor. As if they're going to be allowed to put millions of people out of a job, and destroy several industries that (combined at least) are much larger than they are. The entire parts industry, mechanics shops, body shops, etc etc.
                  WH

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                  • #10
                    Car confiscations for the best interest of public safety.

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                    • #11
                      So - Honda and Nissan not on the list either. More and more folks are trying to legislate us into simply doing what we're told.
                      Originally posted by MR EDD
                      U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                      • #12
                        DMCA??? The same shit I have to deal with everyday at work? lol

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                          So - Honda and Nissan not on the list either. More and more folks are trying to legislate us into simply doing what we're told.
                          We need to legislate that if they even bring it up again, automatic prison time. Oh and OBD-3 is now mandated, and there will be no dealer specific codes allowed. It will completely spill the beans in plain english, with common reasons it goes bad and probable fixes and troubleshooting. A huge backfire for them, just for asking.
                          WH

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Denny View Post
                            Car confiscations for the best interest of public safety.
                            First step is (was) registration.
                            I don't like Republicans, but I really FUCKING hate Democrats.


                            Sex with an Asian woman is great, but 30 minutes later you're horny again.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LANTIRN View Post
                              First step is (was) registration.
                              I haven't done that in years! So, Hah!

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