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  • svauto-erotic855
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    Originally posted by CJ View Post
    I think I just got called a liberal, but I'm not sure.

    That is what I was thinking and it confused the hell out of me. I am going to apologize for Gasser64; sorry CJ.

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  • CJ
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    I think I just got called a liberal, but I'm not sure.

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  • Forever_frost
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    There is no right to vote but if a state is to hold a vote, it cannot be restricted based on listed reasons

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  • Nash B.
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    Originally posted by svo855 View Post
    No. The Constitution is not a living document; its words are as close as can be gotten to being written in stone. There is a process to amend it as you well know and those amendments are also written in stone. Courts also like to reinterpret the meaning of the words that are written in stone to fit into the political views of the individual judges ruling on a case.
    Wait, so it's written in stone until something else written in stone changes it, but that can also be changed? I don't think you understand the metaphor "written in stone."
    Originally posted by Denny View Post
    I don't think that every "right" is written down in there
    They aren't, per the Ninth Amendment.

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  • Denny
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    You know there are amendments that negate previous ammendments, right? Some that are negated (like prohibition) are left in there, not because they are written in stone, rather serving as a reminder of what didn't work.

    We don't have the right to health care, yet are fined if we don't show proof.

    I don't think that every "right" is written down in there, but I don't think citizens and/or government care as much as they should.

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  • svauto-erotic855
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    No. The Constitution is not a living document; its words are as close as can be gotten to being written in stone. There is a process to amend it as you well know and those amendments are also written in stone. Courts also like to reinterpret the meaning of the words that are written in stone to fit into the political views of the individual judges ruling on a case.

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  • Denny
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    Are you confusing the original Bill of Rights to the continuous living document?

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  • svauto-erotic855
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    Originally posted by Denny View Post
    Can a nigga get a facepalm pic?
    There is no explicit right to vote in the Constitution. If there were there would be no need for all of the amendments in regards to voting and there would not be a move to pass a "Right to Vote Amendment". You are making an assumption that is not backed up in case law. I bet you believe that the "Separation of church and state" is written in the Constitution also.

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  • Denny
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    Originally posted by svo855 View Post
    All of those amendments deal with an already presumed right and deal with it after the fact. Not one of them says that every person automatically has the right to vote.
    Can a nigga get a facepalm pic?

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  • svauto-erotic855
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    Originally posted by CJ View Post
    Not only is it in the constitution, is the most prolific right listed. The the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th amendments all speak directly to the right to vote. Ever heard the line "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged?" That's in the constitution. Amendments are the constitution.
    All of those amendments deal with an already presumed right and deal with it after the fact. Not one of them says that every person automatically has the right to vote.

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  • SS Junk
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    oh dear...

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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by svo855 View Post
    The right to vote is not in the constitution thus the reason for a movement to add an amendment making it a right. Google is your friend, you should try using it sometime.
    Not only is it in the constitution, is the most prolific right listed. The the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th amendments all speak directly to the right to vote. Ever heard the line "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged?" That's in the constitution. Amendments are the constitution.

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  • svauto-erotic855
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    Originally posted by YALE View Post
    I'll do you one better than one constitutional amendment. Laws covering the right to vote are in the constitution itself, and multiple amendments, but felons can't vote universally.
    The right to vote is not in the constitution thus the reason for a movement to add an amendment making it a right. Google is your friend, you should try using it sometime.

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  • YALE
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    Originally posted by svo855 View Post
    No I have not. Due process is to guarantee that your civil rights are protected and it is not to be used to strip your civil rights away. What other right listed in the Bill of Rights ends once you receive a felony conviction?
    I'll do you one better than one constitutional amendment. Laws covering the right to vote are in the constitution itself, and multiple amendments, but felons can't vote universally.

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  • svauto-erotic855
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    Did you forget about the Due Process clause in the Constitution?
    No I have not. Due process is to guarantee that your civil rights are protected and it is not to be used to strip your civil rights away. What other right listed in the Bill of Rights ends once you receive a felony conviction?

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