Livernois baseline run with new ZL1

[quikag]

Not true at all 32V. The mag suspension is the best of both worlds. I have two cars with it (not the ZL1), and I track my vehicles so I'm speaking from experience.

Also, Ford took the new GT500 to the ring but did not publish it's time. That is very telling in that it most likely didn't beat the ZL1's time.

Doesn't matter at the end of the day as both the ZL1 and new GT500 are majorly badass rides in their own way. I can't wait for the full comparison tests and real-world reviews.

[32vfromhell]

The Nissan GT-R with all its computerized, electronic, high tech wizardry got its ass handed to it by the Viper ACR at the Ring, a car that is "barely out of the stone age".


The GT500 weighs less, and has more power, and has a chassis that's won more races than the camaro has. Not a bad setup for an easy win at the Ring, or in a slalom.

MR suspension is more for comfort and "ride" than actual handling.

[JNH2010SS]

Must be a slow car or a bad day At the track.
Lingenfelter put both of there's a stock automatic zl1 and stock manual zl1 in the high 11's with no mods.


Besides the ZL1 shines on the road course when the magnetic ride kicks in and starts to work. Us Americans wouldnt know much about that as we like straight line racing. People are forgetting these cars are running IRS and magnetic ride suspension which set records at the ring.

I personally think the gt500 will win the drag race and the zL1 will win the slalom and road course or anything that you have to drive the car rather than straight line. Gonna be hard to out drive a computerized suspension.

[GrayStangGT]

still slow......

Not any more lol.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/pics-videos-buffet-149/849539-livernois-motorsports-first-zl1-9s.html

[Badass2000GT]

still slow......

[quikag]

Impossible! As mentioned previously in this thread, it's a mid 12's at 115mph car at best!!!

[mustang_revival]

11.93 on an auto

[Badass2000GT]

It's 2:06 am and it still looks slow.....

[91CoupeMike]

You have the usual drivetrain loss in addition to it being an automatic.

I was under the impression that when the lock up clutches are on converters you don't loose as much power? Seems like a locked converter and direct drive would have similar results as a manual?

I bet you do lose more through an auto from increased rotating mass though.

[Steve]

Am I the only one that notices the car loses over 100hp from the drivetrain? 580hp down to 476rwhp? Doesn't seem right.

You have the usual drivetrain loss in addition to it being an automatic.

[slow99]

Am I the only one that notices the car loses over 100hp from the drivetrain? 580hp down to 476rwhp? Doesn't seem right.

17.9% loss doesn't seem too far off to me.

[89stangGT]

476rwhp through an auto. Not too bad for a base to start with, but not great for the money in my opinion. Looks like I was right on the money when I said the ZL1 would be a good race for a stock GT Mustang. (Stock to stock) Now I can't wait to see how much power the 13 GT500 puts down.



Here is a post by Rick himself from Livernois -

Am I the only one that notices the car loses over 100hp from the drivetrain? 580hp down to 476rwhp? Doesn't seem right.

[quikag]

I'm a GM guy and I can't stand to spend more than 5 minutes on that Camaro board. It's awful.

[Steve]

I believe it, I don't believe anything that comes from Camar5 though.

LOL yeah. I recently discovered that site through SVTP. Some of those people on Camaro5 are genuinely delusional about their cars. It makes for great reading though.

[OrangeChevyII]

I believe it, I don't believe anything that comes from Camar5 though.