Road Zimmerman takes out biker

[BLAKE]

You guys are arguing about nothing. Both broke the law, but one did so aggressively and with malice. What is left to argue about?

[CexMashean]

I've not supplied any definition. What are you talking about?

Have you not provided a definition by labeling someone as insane based on their responses to a certain discussion?

[jluv]

You're definition of insane doesn't make sense.

I've not supplied any definition. What are you talking about?

I never referred to someone as situationally aware and defensive about their surrounds as being insane.

Neither have I.

[CexMashean]

You're definition of insane doesn't make sense. I never referred to someone as situationally aware and defensive about their surrounds as being insane.

[jluv]

I totally understand what y'all are saying. Always did. I just think you're all fucking insane.

[snacksnack]

Just saying that bikers at risk of this at all times, nothing more from this corner kind sir.

[snacksnack]

I assume you mean when it's legal to pass that cars will swerve at bikes.

Yes

[CexMashean]

people swerve at bikes all the time even when its legal. Seeing as how he mad the decision in this case to do it he may have when it was legal as well.

I assume you mean when it's legal to pass that cars will swerve at bikes.

Sounds like even more of a reason to be extra defensive when you're on a bike. Just because you know you're doing everything right, doesn't mean some bottom feeding meth head will act accordingly. Why assume everyone will when there is evidence to the contrary?

And then you get injured while breaking the law? Shit, good luck on the insurance front for that battle.

[SS Junk]

people swerve at bikes all the time even when its legal.

When is it ever legal?

[snacksnack]

If he had been a legal road law abiding citizen, his trip would have ended as he expected it to.

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people swerve at bikes all the time even when its legal to pass. Seeing as how he made the decision in this case to do it he may have when it was legal as well.

[CexMashean]

It's the same concept as when someone talking shit gets hit. I'm not talking about someone saying "I'll kill you", i mean someone insulting you, disrespecting you, or something equally stupid.

You have to know there is some dumb mother fucker out there who at some point will turn to physical violence. That does not excuse the act of violence, but you understand that it would not have occurred if someone wouldn't have done something to anger someone else.

In this case, two morons on the road had an encounter. One was breaking the law, and meth vigilante was angered by that and took action. His actions are just as illegal, and not excusable, but you have to admit that taking the passing action (which was illegal), was the catalyst for someone getting angry and acting out. As a bike of that age, and if you assume he's been riding for a long time, he has to be aware of road ragers. He has to be aware that some people on the road have a negative attitude toward them.

Without that biker breaking the law, he'd be fine. No, he (and his passenger mostly) did not deserve what happened. If he had been a legal road law abiding citizen, his trip would have ended as he expected it to.

This takes absolutely no blame at all from Crum. He is an absolute piece of shit.

[Chili]

How so? Crossing a double yellow injured her?

Insomuch as, without his illegal actions, neither would have been in a position to get hit. Kind of like how insurance companies will find a driver at fault if they are doing something illegal when an accident occurred, even though they were not the cause of the accident.

The distinction between 'cause', and 'at fault', should be noted. The biker didn't 'cause' the accident, but could be considered partially 'at fault'.

I have definitely heard of situations where someone that is DUI being found at fault for an accident, even though they did not cause it, because in theory they should not have been on the road.

[jluv]

...his actions severely injured the passenger on the bike with him...

How so? Crossing a double yellow injured her?

[mustang_revival]

Lock the cougar driver up. He's lucky he didn't get beat to a pulp on the spot.

[SS Junk]

Yep, including me. I will pass on a double yellow if I know I can do it safely. My bike is by no means something to brag about, but it is quick enough to pass cars in a short time and distance.