So you want a fully automatic firearm...

[CJ]

As an informational thread we should probably limit the chit chat

I can delete the posts if need be.

[David]

Should be noted that being a Class 3 SOT does not permit in one manufacturing machine guns, just in dealing them to individuals or LEO agencies.

There's a whole nother clusterfuck with manufacturing machine guns and weapons of war shit.

[Moose242]

Should be noted that being a Class 3 SOT does not permit in one manufacturing machine guns, just in dealing them to individuals or LEO agencies.

There's a whole nother clusterfuck with manufacturing machine guns and weapons of war shit.

Indeed, I should have noted that only a Class II manufacturer can actually make a post 86 machine gun.

[Rick Modena]

Badges?!?!?! (Hahahahahahahaha) we don't need any stinking badge (or forms)...

[gat0r]

good info

as an FYI,
none of my stamps have required a 'certification of trust'

they already have a few copies of my full trust on file. so a couple back i sent the 'certification of trust' instead of the full copy (just to test the waters), the examiner returned to 'certification of trust' & requested the full copy. so i just do full copy w/ schedule A now.

schedule A is where my s/n list resides. guess it all depends on how trust is setup

ymmv, as each examiner seems to be just a bit different

[Moose242]

good info

as an FYI,
none of my stamps have required a 'certification of trust'

they already have a few copies of my full trust on file. so a couple back i sent the 'certification of trust' instead of the full copy (just to test the waters), the examiner returned to 'certification of trust' & requested the full copy. so i just do full copy w/ schedule A now.

schedule A is where my s/n list resides. guess it all depends on how trust is setup

ymmv, as each examiner seems to be just a bit different

Interesting. It must really vary by examiner and trust. My trust has the scheduled items in the certification, so when I make an NFA purchase I write the item name and serial number in the schedule and submit it all.

[Chopped54]

good info

as an FYI,
none of my stamps have required a 'certification of trust'

they already have a few copies of my full trust on file. so a couple back i sent the 'certification of trust' instead of the full copy (just to test the waters), the examiner returned to 'certification of trust' & requested the full copy. so i just do full copy w/ schedule A now.

schedule A is where my s/n list resides. guess it all depends on how trust is setup

ymmv, as each examiner seems to be just a bit different

My trust list articles in the Schedule as well. The way I understood it in the past you could send just the certification in place of the trust, now they want the full copy.

Interesting. It must really vary by examiner and trust. My trust has the scheduled items in the certification, so when I make an NFA purchase I write the item name and serial number in the schedule and submit it all.

So you list your NFA item on the trust prior to owning it? That was one of the biggest things I have heard will get it kicked back....

[CJ]

My trust list articles in the Schedule as well. The way I understood it in the past you could send just the certification in place of the trust, now they want the full copy.

Right, from what I remember they file your trust, and after the full copy is sent the first time, a certification would suffice with updated inventory. But now they want a full trust each time.

[Moose242]

So you list your NFA item on the trust prior to owning it? That was one of the biggest things I have heard will get it kicked back....

Yes, I have listed the item prior to owning it every time and all my stamps have come in just fine.

[CJ]

Yes, I have listed the item prior to owning it every time and all my stamps have come in just fine.

I was under the impression that is the right way to do it, list your item?

[Moose242]

I was under the impression that is the right way to do it, list your item?

I believe so. The lawyer who set up my trust told me to do it that way.

[David]

I just walk into a courtroom and get a judge to sign. Seems a lot less complicated.

[Moose242]

I just walk into a courtroom and get a judge to sign. Seems a lot less complicated.

I do not want to mess with the love letter, also I don't want to do any finger print cards or photos. I also like that those listed in my trust can use, transport, and store the weapons lawfully.

It also is supposed to take less time to get your paperwork back.

[CJ]

I do not want to mess with the love letter, also I don't want to do any finger print cards or photos. I also like that those listed in my trust can use, transport, and store the weapons lawfully.

It also is supposed to take less time to get your paperwork back.

The standard LEO signoff leaves you spending more time, more effort, and you end up with less rights when it's done.

[cobrajet69]

Good info.

Thanks man.


David