9mm hollow point vs .45 acp fmj ball

[forbes]

Think of it this way. A 9mm may expand from. 38 to. 45 given the right conditions. A .45 doesnt need to waste energy on expansion. It just punches straight though you, hitting everything that is possible.

how does that one saying go?
it can be argued that a 9 mm may expand, but it is an undeniable fact that a 45 will not shrink...
something like that , i cant find it

[baylordjr]

this is why i carry a deagle

[goofygrin]

Here's the article I was talking about: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7866

[Saleen781]

shot placement always trumps both velocity and mass. I carry a .45 with 8 rounds.

[no4njnk]

The reason 10mm is nice is so you don't need the rifle.

The reason I hunt with an AR now in 6.8 is so I don't have to carry a pistol. Shot some hogs I wouldn't want to be in handgun range from.

[Blackout]

You carry DRT?

i use to... but now i have zombie max .380 rounds

[CJ]

Actually I care more about the gun than the round, for a 9mm Glock 19 is a versatile gun in 9mm and a 1911 in 45 is probably my favorite gun of all time. And as was mentioned if you need more than 3-5 rounds you are already up $hit creek. And shot placement is everything so whatever you are more comfortable with is what you should use.

10mm is a different conversation, big, fast round that has the power to take down small game. If I think I am going to need something that big I will have my rifle with me.

The reason 10mm is nice is so you don't need the rifle.

[no4njnk]

Actually I care more about the gun than the round, for a 9mm Glock 19 is a versatile gun in 9mm and a 1911 in 45 is probably my favorite gun of all time. And as was mentioned if you need more than 3-5 rounds you are already up $hit creek. And shot placement is everything so whatever you are more comfortable with is what you should use.

10mm is a different conversation, big, fast round that has the power to take down small game. If I think I am going to need something that big I will have my rifle with me.

[Geor!]

How about 8 .45 rounds vs 16 9mm?

If you're in a situation where you need 16 -- hell, even 8, rounds, you've made some pretty poor decisions along the way to end up where you are.

[Downs]

how about 15 rounds or .40 DRT. done.

You carry DRT?

[Downs]

Lots of reading but even the experts can't decide what round is the best lol.

http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf

http://www.supertrap.com/ST_Downloads_files/HandgunStopPower2.pdf

http://www.firearmstactical.com/tacticalbriefs/volume4/number2/article421.htm

http://www.firearmstactical.com/wound.htm

http://www.theppsc.org/Staff_Views/Aveni/OIS-%20What%20We%20Didn%27t%20Know%20Hurt%20Us.pdf

[CJ]

I am not trying to have the .45 vs 9m capacity vs power argument. I am questioning the stopping power. Any energy that a bullet has when it leaves the body is wasted energy, ideally you want the bullet to dump all of it's energy at the depth where the vital organs are. A 9mm HP is going to expand XX amount and mushroom while a .45 ball is going to stay together and have a cavity a little larger then the bullet on impact. So which one would be better. Heck I would even like to see the results of 9mm HP vs 45mm HP.

I answered your question exactly with my post, that's the argument for .45 ball. Sounds to me like this really isn't a discussion, you seem to a 9mm advocate. .45 has better stopping power, it's been cataloged for almost a century. A bullet that leaves the body penetrated further than a bullet which didn't. depending on the angle a person is standing, the penetration varies greatly. A .45 which exits a forward facing target might not exit one to the side. The difference being it has more penetration in any circumstance.

[Blackout]

how about 15 rounds or .40 DRT. done.

[Downs]

When using quality hollow point ammo (in both platforms) it doesn't really make a difference. The percentages are pretty close like within a few percent (for one shot stops) between 9mm JHP and 45 JHP

Pick which ever one you shoot the best. When it really comes down to it you're still shooting a handgun. Given the choice I'd rather use a rifle.

[no4njnk]

I am not trying to have the .45 vs 9m capacity vs power argument. I am questioning the stopping power. Any energy that a bullet has when it leaves the body is wasted energy, ideally you want the bullet to dump all of it's energy at the depth where the vital organs are. A 9mm HP is going to expand XX amount and mushroom while a .45 ball is going to stay together and have a cavity a little larger then the bullet on impact. So which one would be better. Heck I would even like to see the results of 9mm HP vs 45mm HP.