.357 or other pistol caliber lever gun

[AnthonyS]

The only rifle in pistol caliber that appeals to me is the good old fashioned Thompson..... I'd love to have one.

[likeitfast55]

10-4

[Tannerm]

Ok. Regardless of this. I still want one. So keep ur eyes pealed for a good deal on a 357 lever.

[matts5.0]

No one believes you bro.

[svauto-erotic855]

You're apparently the only person out there then. Lolz I still call bs.

If I ever pick one of these rifles up again I will post the test on you tube.

Can you list some of your load data that this has happened with? I'm curious just how light of a load you're using for this to happen,

I can't post load data because it is factory ammo that will cause the malfunction. I have never had a problem with my own loads. What ever Winchester loads their white box 130gr FMJ target ammo to is what the spec is.

[likeitfast55]

Factory loads, brah.

ammo that you buy at walmart is loaded pretty weakly

So Remington ammo from Bass Pro is ok? Walmart = not ok?

[YALE]

Can you list some of your load data that this has happened with? I'm curious just how light of a load you're using for this to happen,

Factory loads, brah.

[CJ]

[elPolloLoco]

Can you list some of your load data that this has happened with? I'm curious just how light of a load you're using for this to happen,

[dee]

The only malfunction is selecting the wrong ammo. I can duplicate this with any .38/.357 rifle that you hand me.

You're apparently the only person out there then. Lolz I still call bs.

[svauto-erotic855]

I know a decent amount about internal ballistics. To cause problems like you are describing you have to have malfunction somewhere be it wrong bullet diameter or bore/grove diameter. The more I read I wonder if you had a micro groove marlin as they put out more than a few with bad bores. I could possibly see that but even then it's a stretch.

The only malfunction is selecting the wrong ammo. I can duplicate this with any .38/.357 rifle that you hand me.

[dee]

I know a decent amount about internal ballistics. To cause problems like you are describing you have to have malfunction somewhere be it wrong bullet diameter or bore/grove diameter. The more I read I wonder if you had a micro groove marlin as they put out more than a few with bad bores. I could possibly see that but even then it's a stretch.

[svauto-erotic855]

Does your theory of internal ballistics apply to 22lr? If so I have a gun from Krypton. Maybe 2500 rounds through it, never cleaned. Shoots great!



Uh ooooooooo. It is a good thing I shot my weak target walmart ammo before I read this!

It applies to all ammo but most .22lr ammo is lead and lubed and the smaller OD of the bullet provides less surface area for friction to act on.

[likeitfast55]

Internal ballistics are an odd thing to get your mind around so I will try to keep it simple

Does your theory of internal ballistics apply to 22lr? If so I have a gun from Krypton. Maybe 2500 rounds through it, never cleaned. Shoots great!

Normal target ammo that you buy at walmart is loaded pretty weakly and it is designed for use in a short barrel.

Uh ooooooooo. It is a good thing I shot my weak target walmart ammo before I read this!

[svauto-erotic855]

Details? All logic says it's bs unless you're bore isn't true or some other strange non standard factor.

Which part? Stopping in 8"? I stopped something that weighs more than 230,000 times what an average .38spl jacketed plinking round weighs several hundred times today via friction but it was going slower then the bullet would be traveling.

Internal ballistics are an odd thing to get your mind around so I will try to keep it simple. As far as a bullet getting lodged in the barrel it goes like this. Normal target ammo that you buy at walmart is loaded pretty weakly and it is designed for use in a short barrel. Remember that an object in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force such as friction. There will be a point where the bullet in the barrel starts to slow down because the friction is greater then the force trying to accelerate it. Most of the time there is still enough momentum for the bullet to make it out of the barrel but if you have been shooting all day long the bore is fouled with gliding material and the ID has been decrease plus the coefficient of friction has been increased. Then you get a load that is on the low side of the factory tolerances and there just isn't enough "Go" to make it out of the barrel. This will happen faster with low powered ammo; jacketed makes it happen ever faster. Bring me a .38 lever gun and I will show you. In all likely hood you will experience what I am describing before making it through a case of ammo. It can be prevented by cleaning the bore, using hotter ammo instead of the cheap stuff, and by using cast bullets.