.357 or other pistol caliber lever gun

[likeitfast55]

They do have this rather bizarre law.

http://www.firearmstraining.ca/classes.htm

[YALE]

Yeah, actually putting it on target isn't the easiest with the bobbed stock. I am about sixty miles from Canada and I have been told they can put a full length stock on it with no issues up there.

They don't have an NFA.

[Jimbo]

Yeah, actually putting it on target isn't the easiest with the bobbed stock. I am about sixty miles from Canada and I have been told they can put a full length stock on it with no issues up there.

[YALE]

I have a Rossi Ranch Hand, their McQueen mares leg knockoff, in 357 /38. It's a fun little pistol. It has trouble chambering the cheap ammo, but it is tight and pretty smooth. Even the short 12" barrel keeps it pretty quiet and it seems accurate enough. I would definitely recommend it.

I want to SBR one.

[Jimbo]

I have a Rossi Ranch Hand, their McQueen mares leg knockoff, in 357 /38. It's a fun little pistol. It has trouble chambering the cheap ammo, but it is tight and pretty smooth. Even the short 12" barrel keeps it pretty quiet and it seems accurate enough. I would definitely recommend it.

[dee]

I'd love to have a caliber matched set of single action and lever action. Preferably in 45lc. But my FIL's marlin in 41mag is a tack driver out to 170 yards. Respectable for a pistol cartridge

I've long wanted a lever gun in 41 to go along with my smith but they are not easy to find and usually pretty pricey compared to the other calibers. I wish marlin had produced more of them.

[elPolloLoco]

My bad....I saw where you said you "roll my own loads" and assumed you were also having the issue with your hand loads.

Winchester lists that load at 800fps....I seriously doubt that the expanding gases from the burning powder charge have reached their maximum volume coming out of a 4 1/2" pistol barrel. So therefor the velocity of the bullet would continue to increase in a rifle barrel for a given distance and would require even greater friction to overcome the the increased velocity gained to bring the bullet to a stop in the barrel. The only time I've ever heard of a bullet getting stuck in a barrel was due to failure of the powder charge to ignite or having an incomplete burn. My only personal experience with this was with some very old shot gun loads. The primer failed to ignite the powder charge and the wad stopped about 6" from the muzzle with all the shot leaving the barrel. Granted there is far less friction due to it being a smooth bore but there was still enough velocity from the 209 primer to send 1oz of lead out of a 26" barrel.

[matts5.0]

Lol svo, you just sound silly now.

[YALE]

Go re-read my post.

Why? Did you change something?

[svauto-erotic855]

An excellent repositioning of the goalpost, sir. Just capital.

Go re-read my post.

[racrguy]

An excellent repositioning of the goalpost, sir. Just capital.

[YALE]

^^^^^

I have been talking about using mild .38spl loads. The issue I am referencing to doesn't happen with .357mag loads.

An excellent repositioning of the goalpost, sir. Just capital.

[svauto-erotic855]

^^^^^

I have been talking about using mild .38spl loads. The issue I am referencing to doesn't happen with .357mag loads.

[Trick Pony]

Add and extra 8" to the barrel length and it just sometimes happens.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/357_magnum_and_the_literature.htm

Everything I've seen contradicts what you are saying. This link compares .357 Mag velocities between 6" pistol and 20" rifle. Rifle is 400-800 fps higher velocity for all the rounds tested.

Your argument about friction stopping the bullet also does not take into consideration that there is still pressure behind the bullet pushing it out in a longer barrel, albeit the pressure drops as the bullet gets to the end of a long barrel. This guy also tested 20" vs 24" barrel on a Marlin 92. Velocity loss was 20 fps per inch with high pressure loads. I'd agree that with lower pressure loads you would see more velocity loss per length after max velocity is achieved in the barrel, but that still isn't going to stop the bullet.

I believe that you experienced what you are saying, but there has to be something else to explain it. Ballistics just don't back up your statement. The fact that nobody else on the internet seems to be complaining should tell you that something else was going on.

Also, if this was a real problem you would hear about people blowing up 9mm ARs all the time because decreased case volume and faster burning powders compared to Magnum pistol cartridges should make the effect you are talking about even more dramatic.

[bottlerocket]

I'd love to have a caliber matched set of single action and lever action. Preferably in 45lc. But my FIL's marlin in 41mag is a tack driver out to 170 yards. Respectable for a pistol cartridge