Queens man found with AK-47 assault rifle, 17,000 rounds of ammunition

[Craizie]

I'm thinking that I can trust people who've attended church with my grandparent's for decades.

Okie dokie.

[Grimpala]

Or so they say...

I'm thinking that I can trust people who've attended church with my grandparent's for decades.

[Craizie]

I know all the info on mine because I don't want to spend money on junk. I know who owned it and how it was cared for/used. Plus I'm interested in history, so I like to research the MFG of the firearm as well as dating them and learning of any quirks.

I also don't want something that has a built in surprise and blows up the first time I pull the trigger.

Plus I mainly buy older shotguns and hunting rifles, from older men or their widows, most of which are the first owners of said guns.

All of my pistol purchases have been retail and my ARs have been gun show lowers and built by me.

Or so they say...

[Grimpala]

Baba and Grimp are sounding like a couple of pretentious twats.

I know all the info on mine because I don't want to spend money on junk. I know who owned it and how it was cared for/used. Plus I'm interested in history, so I like to research the MFG of the firearm as well as dating them and learning of any quirks.

I also don't want something that has a built in surprise and blows up the first time I pull the trigger.

Plus I mainly buy older shotguns and hunting rifles, from older men or their widows, most of which are the first owners of said guns.

All of my pistol purchases have been retail and my ARs have been gun show lowers and built by me.

[GhostTX]

So, we gonna have a thread for serial number check for DFWM members?

[kingjason]

There have been 10s of millions of guns made since they started requiring serial numbers on them and it is not uncommon for guns to have the same serial numbers so they require more details such as the manufacture, caliber, gun type, barrel length and a general description to accurately add a gun to the feds hot list. Running just the serial number is pointless and the feds do not track stolen firearms just by the serial number.

Sort of.

If you get a hit from the serial number, then you go into detail.

Yes

Cars are the same way for some reason now days. I can run a plate or serial number and get what is called a soundex. Then I have to eyeball it and see what state it is from, make, model, etc.

We have confirmed on stolen guns based on a serial number hit at first with no make or model. Then we do the leg work and start calling PD's to see what is in the report and what identifiers they have.

They do require a minimum amount of fields to be entered and the more the better. I have never entered the barrel length though. I could see it happening though on some SBR's etc.

Sometimes the reason we have to do the leg work is just older records. They just didn't require the same stuff ten years ago they require now.

[svauto-erotic855]

If you get a hit from the serial number, then you go into detail.

I have reported them stolen before but I have never tried to run them.

[Tremor14]

no man, that's not how it works.

[svauto-erotic855]

What are you talking about?

There have been 10s of millions of guns made since they started requiring serial numbers on them and it is not uncommon for guns to have the same serial numbers so they require more details such as the manufacture, caliber, gun type, barrel length and a general description to accurately add a gun to the feds hot list. Running just the serial number is pointless and the feds do not track stolen firearms just by the serial number.

[svauto-erotic855]

I've got the TLETS hook up. It's just a NCIC inquiry.

If they just run the number it will not tell you if it is stolen or not. The way guns are added to the hot sheet is a bit confusing but there is a method to the madness and you have to feed in the details exactly in the right way to get real results.

[svauto-erotic855]

I know where every single gun I own came from and it's history from birth to me.

You don't do much horse trading do you?

Actually, the only 2 used ones I've bought were from members on here FTF, and I had a family member that works for DPS run the serial numbers both times (both times checked out). I'd never posses or carry a firearm without checking the history first. I'm sure there are other ways to check and I don't understand anyone who wouldn't, you're putting way too much trust in folks, and you're putting your own freedom at risk.

I stick to new purchases now, just personal preference.

Use normal folks can't get the DPS to run a serial number for us.

I have ran every serial number of guns I buy.

Exactly how have you done that? Even when I was an FFL I do not believe that I had the ability to do that but I was required to record from whom each gun came from.

If you willingly pay for potentially stolen shit, you're creating a market and supporting thievery, and should meet the same fate as the thief.

Pawn Shops have been providing a market for stolen goods since before my parents were born and still do.

There is nothing worse than a thief. When it comes to theft, there is no gray area.

You have never set foot in a court room if you believe that there is not a grey area. Do you remember the story in the news lately that said that the police take more in a year through civil forfeiture then what is stolen by criminals in a year?

Damn. Remind me not to be YOUR friend!

You don't want me to lend you a $10,000 shotgun?

[Craizie]

I'm not trashing you, bud. I just stated what I do because I was asked. I'm not knocking anyone for anything.

Peace, love and chicken grease.

I wasn't meaning to redirect that on you. I was just using it as an example to try and goad Baba further into the argument.

[svauto-erotic855]

I remembered this after I stepped away from my computer. I bought a Winchester 21 from Nix Shooting Supply in Lewisville TX in the late 1989 or early 1990 and since they stopped making them in 1961 it was a used gun. Fast forward 10 years and a friend of mine borrowed it and got stopped for an outstanding warrant in Farmers Branch with the gun in his car. They run the numbers and it comes up hot. He get taken in for it. The gun store was long out of business but I still had the paper work from when I bought it. After a lot of head ache I was able to track down the original owner who had reported it stolen. He had a break in and gave the police all of his records concerning his missing guns but forgot that he had traded in the 21. I was able to track down the insurance company that paid the claim on the guns and got them to release the gun to me and I was able to get the charges dropped against my friend.

I have also had a gun in my hand that I knew was stolen and I took it from the people trying to sell it to me and told them they could follow me to the Argyle PD (closest PD to me at that moment)if they wanted their gun back. I did a police report at the PD and gave them the gun. 3 months later they called me and said that it was clean and to come pick it up.

[Tremor14]

No mysticism when it comes to a shitbag.

[SS Junk]

some people live by their own set of rules/morals, and not what was taught and established within them. Thats why a lot of people dont get SVO, or hell, even me.

No mysticism when it comes to a shitbag.