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[Pro88LX]

It's really not that bad. He knows who loves him, keeps him safe, etc. He has forced me to have difficult conversations as times, but I had built up in my head to be far worse than it actually turned out to be. You just don't want to have to tell your kid where she is, why she's not around, or that she's a meth head. He's pretty intelligent though, and pretty resilient. Doesn't seem to bother him too bad. It would be far worse if he did not have a mother figure though. Luckily she's been in his life since he was 4, so that makes it a lot easier.


Don't get me wrong. I have never once badmouthed her in front of him. And I've always made it clear that she loves him, she just needs to work on her so she can be a better mom. So that has made it a lot less painful for him too.

My dad was a case of beer a night kind of drunk when i was a kid. Didn't really want to be a dad. Parents were divorced and he always bailed on our weekends with him. Had a lot of the same talks with my mom. Now, he quit drinking 10 years ago and got his shit straight and we are SUPER close. Hopefully his mom get her act together.

[Steve]

You're right i don't have kids. I have however been with my girlfriend for 7 years next month, and if anyone on here called her a whore or whatever he called your wife/ex wife, i would blow it off. I have too much to lose to blow it over such petty shit. If someone threatened her with violence, that's a different story. When we do have kids i guarantee they would NEVER end up with CPS in foster care because i couldn't control myself and went to jail because someone online said some rude shit.

I completely agree with what you are saying, over board shit, it's dumb to take it to that level. But I have my limits what I will deal with, Adam told you about it today. My BS threshold in person is very short when my space is being invaded.

It's a big reason I stay away from the bar GTG's here. There is alot of aggressive characters on this board, I rather than not tempt fate by being around it and something possibly happening with someone pumped up on liquid courage bringing board nonsense into real scenario.

[Big A]

I think you know the answer to that... Lol. My feelings would be different if she had ever acted as any kind of mom. She hasn't seen him in 2 years, and that was for a 6 month stint or so, and had gone 18 months without seeing him prior to that. Kenny's mom will always be H. His birth mother to this point, is nothing more than an egg donor.

I will say, she is doing a 6 month stint in rehab. And though her only choice was jail or rehab, good for her. If she can make a change, get the help she needs, and take a proactive role in his life then more power to her. He does care about her to an extent, but he calls her by her name, and never called her momma. He knows who he can rely on, and it's not her. But if she can get, and stay clean, I will fully support any relationship Kenny is comfortable with.

Yeah, I guess I did know the answer, but you kinda made a blanket statement. Wife's and mother's that even act half the role are worth defending, those that only hold the title are not.

I truly hope that she gets clean for her own sake, and I'm glad that you're atleast open to fostering that relationship so long as she is able to be a good role model. The sad statistic is, that you have want to get help for it to remotely have a chance. The fact that it was rehab or jail tells me that she took the lesser of the two evils, and she'll be back on drugs as soon as she gets out.

[bcoop]

That sucks man.....

It's really not that bad. He knows who loves him, keeps him safe, etc. He has forced me to have difficult conversations as times, but I had built up in my head to be far worse than it actually turned out to be. You just don't want to have to tell your kid where she is, why she's not around, or that she's a meth head. He's pretty intelligent though, and pretty resilient. Doesn't seem to bother him too bad. It would be far worse if he did not have a mother figure though. Luckily she's been in his life since he was 4, so that makes it a lot easier.


Don't get me wrong. I have never once badmouthed her in front of him. And I've always made it clear that she loves him, she just needs to work on her so she can be a better mom. So that has made it a lot less painful for him too.

[Pro88LX]

Lol. Kids won't go to CPS or foster care over a fight. It's cool. You don't have to agree. Maybe Because I've been to jail, though well over a decade ago, it's just not a big deal to me.

Really? If you go to jail, what happens to your kids? Your willingness to accept going to jail isn't setting a good example for your son. Hope you don't act that way in front of him.

[Pro88LX]

Agreed 100%. It's a primal instinct thing. Nothing will send me into a rage quicker than making a serious threat against my wife or especially my little girl. I'm a very laid back guy most of the time, but there is a side of me you don't want to deal with and by crossing that line you quickly find about it.

I thought the line you don't want to cross is the space between you and the Arby's drive through line?

[idrivea4banger]

I was in great shape at that point I'll have you know.

I meant as in your chest to whiteboys titties.

[bcoop]

You're right i don't have kids. I have however been with my girlfriend for 7 years next month, and if anyone on here called her a whore or whatever he called your wife/ex wife, i would blow it off. I have too much to lose to blow it over such petty shit. If someone threatened her with violence, that's a different story. When we do have kids i guarantee they would NEVER end up with CPS in foster care because i couldn't control myself and went to jail because someone online said some rude shit.

Lol. Kids won't go to CPS or foster care over a fight. It's cool. You don't have to agree. Maybe Because I've been to jail, though well over a decade ago, it's just not a big deal to me.

[Steve]

I tell everyone to fuck off. Just in my nature. Customers, friends, family... It's not always inflammatory, or intended to be inflammatory. I take it you don't have a wife or kids. I really don't give a damn what you think about it (not inflammatory), I'll defend my family at all costs, even jail or death as a consequence. There's a switch that goes off when you have a kid. If you ever do, you'll get it. I'd be willing to bet even Steve agrees with me on this. And if you're a man, by proxy, you will do the same for their mother. Even if you're divorced and even more so when things are amicable.

Agreed 100%. It's a primal instinct thing. Nothing will send me into a rage quicker than making a serious threat against my wife or especially my little girl. I'm a very laid back guy most of the time, but there is a side of me you don't want to deal with and by crossing that line you quickly find about it.

[Pro88LX]

I think you know the answer to that... Lol. My feelings would be different if she had ever acted as any kind of mom. She hasn't seen him in 2 years, and that was for a 6 month stint or so, and had gone 18 months without seeing him prior to that. Kenny's mom will always be H. His birth mother to this point, is nothing more than an egg donor.

I will say, she is doing a 6 month stint in rehab. And though her only choice was jail or rehab, good for her. If she can make a change, get the help she needs, and take a proactive role in his life then more power to her. He does care about her to an extent, but he calls her by her name, and never called her momma. He knows who he can rely on, and it's not her. But if she can get, and stay clean, I will fully support any relationship Kenny is comfortable with.

That sucks man.....

[bcoop]

I totally agree, though for sake of conversation (like this thread hasn't derailed long ago), what if someone were to talk shit about Kenny's mom? I'm not trying to start anything, I'm genuinely curious.

I think you know the answer to that... Lol. My feelings would be different if she had ever acted as any kind of mom. She hasn't seen him in 2 years, and that was for a 6 month stint or so, and had gone 18 months without seeing him prior to that. Kenny's mom will always be H. His birth mother to this point, is nothing more than an egg donor.

I will say, she is doing a 6 month stint in rehab. And though her only choice was jail or rehab, good for her. If she can make a change, get the help she needs, and take a proactive role in his life then more power to her. He does care about her to an extent, but he calls her by her name, and never called her momma. He knows who he can rely on, and it's not her. But if she can get, and stay clean, I will fully support any relationship Kenny is comfortable with.

[Pro88LX]

No. They are ninjas in training. We have some 12 year olds that would easily slap around the wannabe e*warriors around here!

*paging Donnie!

[Pro88LX]

Yes to the first. Stuttering Boob.

I tell everyone to fuck off. Just in my nature. Customers, friends, family... It's not always inflammatory, or intended to be inflammatory. I take it you don't have a wife or kids. I really don't give a damn what you think about it (not inflammatory), I'll defend my family at all costs, even jail or death as a consequence. There's a switch that goes off when you have a kid. If you ever do, you'll get it. I'd be willing to bet even Steve agrees with me on this. And if you're a man, by proxy, you will do the same for their mother. Even if you're divorced and even more so when things are amicable.

You're right i don't have kids. I have however been with my girlfriend for 7 years next month, and if anyone on here called her a whore or whatever he called your wife/ex wife, i would blow it off. I have too much to lose to blow it over such petty shit. If someone threatened her with violence, that's a different story. When we do have kids i guarantee they would NEVER end up with CPS in foster care because i couldn't control myself and went to jail because someone online said some rude shit.

[Steve]

Do they have trouble throwing after the armbars?

No. They are ninjas in training. We have some 12 year olds that would easily slap around the wannabe e*warriors around here!

[Big A]

Yes to the first. Stuttering Boob.

I tell everyone to fuck off. Just in my nature. Customers, friends, family... It's not always inflammatory, or intended to be inflammatory. I take it you don't have a wife or kids. I really don't give a damn what you think about it (not inflammatory), I'll defend my family at all costs, even jail or death as a consequence. There's a switch that goes off when you have a kid. If you ever do, you'll get it. I'd be willing to bet even Steve agrees with me on this. And if you're a man, by proxy, you will do the same for their mother. Even if you're divorced and even more so when things are amicable.

I totally agree, though for sake of conversation (like this thread hasn't derailed long ago), what if someone were to talk shit about Kenny's mom? I'm not trying to start anything, I'm genuinely curious.