Occupy Dallas

[Bassics]

Realistically speaking, there are several living paycheck to paycheck, if not worse.

It doesn't magically improve. There are personal choices that sometimes get in the way, and sometimes just crap luck bites you in the ass. I honestly don't see how a couple in their early 20s with two kids somehow "deserves" not to live paycheck to paycheck. Maybe they can, maybe they can't.

7yrs followed by another 7 and all that...

[Denny]

it also show why our school system sucks. I don't know in your area, but we no longer have drafting, woodshop, metalshop, or auto. The things that gave certain kids an opportunity to find a skill. sorry but not everyone's kids are college / office material. but we have made it this way by hiring illegals cheaper than living wages. Now adays i pay top dollar for an immigrant worker to perform when i could be paying a 19 year old and him learn some skill to

Making drones for our massive service industry. Back in the 40s-70s, public schools pushed vocations because it was the demand at the time. Public schools are just a tool for the government. We're their workerbees.

make welfare a case of ramen and a copy of the want-ads for the week and I think there really would be changes.

Move the top rail to the bottom, there will still be a bottom and a top.

Right. Take away their incentive to be lazy fucks. Right now we're encouraging the gubment's teet.

[Denny]

What are these luxuries you are referring to specifically, just curious? I think everyone has the same opportunity regardless of pay.

People can save (IMO) regardless of how much money they make. When I first moved to Texas I was working for $5.25 an hour plus tips which wasn't much. I had a kid and a car payment, rent etc, and always had cash in my accounts. I will agree it is MUCH easier to save/invest, etc when you make more but I don't see the argument that those making minimum wage can't save and do all those things the middle class/rich do.

It all depends on where your priorities are.

Realistically speaking, there are several living paycheck to paycheck, if not worse.

[Bassics]

make welfare a case of ramen and a copy of the want-ads for the week and I think there really would be changes.

Move the top rail to the bottom, there will still be a bottom and a top.

[347Mike]

There are several hundred thousand people protesting nation wide for several hundred different reasons. Conveniently, the media is focusing on the crapbags like pictured on page one.

I seriously doubt those people and I could be in the same room together for more than 30 seconds.

lol

[forbes]

I've had more issues with work ethic and incompetence from the college grads that worked both under and above me than I have with those that have worked their way in/up on their own without a formal education and stupid piece of paper stating they spent some time in school post-high school.

Granted, there are several professions that require advanced education that no one should argue its necessity (doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc) but employers are missing out on great employees with proven work experience (even specific to the job in question) to that stupid piece of paper and some brat with no experience.

it also show why our school system sucks. I don't know in your area, but we no longer have drafting, woodshop, metalshop, or auto. The things that gave certain kids an opportunity to find a skill. sorry but not everyone's kids are college / office material. but we have made it this way by hiring illegals cheaper than living wages. Now adays i pay top dollar for an immigrant worker to perform when i could be paying a 19 year old and him learn some skill to

[347Mike]

Most of the working class is already there, Alan. They just add the option of debt to it to put them outside of their means. It's killing them.

What the holy fuck are you talking about?!?!

Right. Most people don't have the luxury of putting any extra money to use to counter inflation like some of us. They shouldn't have to, though. If they earned a certain amount, they should be able to spend it at that value whenever they want. This crap only forces people to put it into the "system" and most lose it anyway.

What are these luxuries you are referring to specifically, just curious? I think everyone has the same opportunity regardless of pay.

People can save (IMO) regardless of how much money they make. When I first moved to Texas I was working for $5.25 an hour plus tips which wasn't much. I had a kid and a car payment, rent etc, and always had cash in my accounts. I will agree it is MUCH easier to save/invest, etc when you make more but I don't see the argument that those making minimum wage can't save and do all those things the middle class/rich do.

It all depends on where your priorities are.

[Denny]

Watching the news this morning and ready some things online told me that these are some of the issues these protestors are wanting. Then reading on here it seems you are supportive. I was asking if I was wrong or right. That is all.

There are several hundred thousand people protesting nation wide for several hundred different reasons. Conveniently, the media is focusing on the crapbags like pictured on page one.

I seriously doubt those people and I could be in the same room together for more than 30 seconds.

[mustangguy289]

What the holy fuck are you talking about?!?!

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Watching the news this morning and ready some things online told me that these are some of the issues these protestors are wanting. Then reading on here it seems you are supportive. I was asking if I was wrong or right. That is all.

[Denny]

Idealistic nonsense. Besides, it has already been done. In medieval Europe loaning money for interest was considered to be a sin, the sin of usury. The Jews did it though because they didn't fall under the guidance of the Pope. That is why people hate the Jews, their actions with money lending were viewed as predatory by christians.

Saying you won't have an economy with debt is like saying you are going to extinguish the sun. If you can't put money to work then why even accumulate wealth in the first place? Seems to me that idea would just encourage spending everything a person makes.

Most of the working class is already there, Alan. They just add the option of debt to it to put them outside of their means. It's killing them.

Am I reading these threads right? Denny is supporting a liberal movement? A movement that wants a $20 an hr wage whether you work or not? A movement that wants all your debt erased for everyone?

What the holy fuck are you talking about?!?!

People already do this... lol

Right. Most people don't have the luxury of putting any extra money to use to counter inflation like some of us. They shouldn't have to, though. If they earned a certain amount, they should be able to spend it at that value whenever they want. This crap only forces people to put it into the "system" and most lose it anyway.

[Broncojohnny]

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[mstng86]

People already do this... lol

Exactly what I was thinking.

[347Mike]

Idealistic nonsense. Besides, it has already been done. In medieval Europe loaning money for interest was considered to be a sin, the sin of usury. The Jews did it though because they didn't fall under the guidance of the Pope. That is why people hate the Jews, their actions with money lending were viewed as predatory by christians.

Saying you won't have an economy with debt is like saying you are going to extinguish the sun. If you can't put money to work then why even accumulate wealth in the first place? Seems to me that idea would just encourage spending everything a person makes.

People already do this... lol

[mustangguy289]

Am I reading these threads right? Denny is supporting a liberal movement? A movement that wants a $20 an hr wage whether you work or not? A movement that wants all your debt erased for everyone?

[Broncojohnny]

Or just build an economy that says FUCK DEBT... just sayin'.

Idealistic nonsense. Besides, it has already been done. In medieval Europe loaning money for interest was considered to be a sin, the sin of usury. The Jews did it though because they didn't fall under the guidance of the Pope. That is why people hate the Jews, their actions with money lending were viewed as predatory by christians.

Saying you won't have an economy with debt is like saying you are going to extinguish the sun. If you can't put money to work then why even accumulate wealth in the first place? Seems to me that idea would just encourage spending everything a person makes.