I don't drink and drive, so I have no problem, but this is bull shit. How can they draw blood from safely from an unwilling person without knocking them out cold? When I was in the hospital, I was shaking so badly from a fever that it took three nurses to hold me down just to inject me with some meds and I already had an IV in me. I was 125lbs, weak as hell and trying to hold still. I am 185lbs now, strong, they would have no IV, and I would be struggling.
Add that to the fact that I have had seasoned nurses try three or four times to get blood out of me while I am perfectly still and they can't. You might stab me 5 times and you might take me to jail, but I guarantee that you wont get blood out of me in the field if I don't want you to have it.
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4 mile stretch just now right north of San Marcos on 35 there were 12 state troopers, 8 had cars pulled over and 5 were doing field sobriety tests. Most I've ever seen at once
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I'm driving,texting, drinking while stabbing myself with a needle at whataburger.
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Pretty soon, it will be a no refusal weekend every day. The fines for DWI are higher than those for failure to control. Prosecutors need the evidence - if you don't blow - it's much harder to prove you've been drinking.
I am very much opposed to drinking and driving, having watched friends die on multiple occasions because of it - but johnny law abider should not have to subject himself to sobriety checkpoints or any other illegal search to allegedly make the rest of us safer.
There are tons of people that get away with drinking and driving every day, checkpoints or not, refusal policies or not. I know because I got away with it at least a few thousand times. The current methods are ineffective.
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Originally posted by BP View PostSo what if you've been taking Coumadin for blood clots? Being forcibly held down and stuck might very well be lethal.
Phlebotomy on somebody taking blood thinners is not lethal. I've drawn blood, IV sticks, and DC'd IVs on more patients than I can remember with a variety of comordities. Just like when Chemotherapy patients often get CBCs before each major round of treatment. To look and see where the white counts and platelet counts (among other factors) are before proceeding with the next round. They are not endangered by the blood draw in a clinical setting.
These blood draws will be done by a Nurse or Phlebotomist. Not the office secretary or copy boy.
If you plan on getting wasted this weekend, just stay home or have a DD. Avoid the unnecessary BS that you will go through otherwise. Your disdain against the process is understandable, but I can't see how anybody would want to be arrested and go through all that BS simply as an act of defiance.
I for one am staying off the streets just simply because I don't want some asshole totaling my car. Already went through that once this year. Didn't buy the t-shirt.
Ya'll have a good one.
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I quit drinking last year, the day after the DFWM Christmas party at SanFran Rose. If i go out for New Years Eve, and I get pulled over......I'll comply with whatever they need me to do. No sense lengthening a stop. I guarantee there won't be any intoxicants in my system, so I've got nothing to worry about.
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Just mumble, "No speak inglis" and they will apologize and let you go.
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Originally posted by jasone View PostI got pulled over on the way to the bar a few years back on new years eve. Cop said my license plate light was out and just asked me a bunch of shit to see if I had already been drinking, and then let me go when he realized I was still sober. When I got to the bar I looked at my license plate light and it wasn't out. That asshole lied right to my face just to see if I was drinking and driving. Ever since then I try to stay at home on new years eve.
Poor baby.
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I got pulled over on the way to the bar a few years back on new years eve. Cop said my license plate light was out and just asked me a bunch of shit to see if I had already been drinking, and then let me go when he realized I was still sober. When I got to the bar I looked at my license plate light and it wasn't out. That asshole lied right to my face just to see if I was drinking and driving. Ever since then I try to stay at home on new years eve.
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Originally posted by Tyrone Biggums View PostSo, if Elvis and I can stumble out of the car and pull off our Kid 'N Play dance routine flawlessly, will that qualify as a "passing" field sobriety test?
If so, drinks are on me!
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I see blood draws 1-2 times a week, usually before noon...
I have also seen a few try to refuse to let them draw. They are going to get the blood, best to just let 'em at that point instead of stacking more charges.
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So, if Elvis and I can stumble out of the car and pull off our Kid 'N Play dance routine flawlessly, will that qualify as a "passing" field sobriety test?
If so, drinks are on me!
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Taking my blood is against my religious beliefs. I wonder how that one is going to work out for them.
All it takes is one dude who doesn't mind going out in a blaze of glory. Cops have too much power.
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