Waiters take no tipper into their own hands.

[ceyko]

Don't recall being in the other ones. This one is interesting enough. Thought you were unsubscribing 5.0_CJ?

[CJ]

This forum is basically the same 20 - 30 topics re-hashed again and again. The pocket/wallet one was done just a few days ago again. Pitbulls and tipping though, honestly: how many times can the same discussion be beaten like a dead horse?

We both know the answer, forever.

[slow99]

This forum needs a tip etiquette sticky because this has been abused like a $5 bill...

This forum is essentially the same 20 - 30 topics re-hashed again and again. The pocket/wallet one was done just a few days ago again. Pitbulls and tipping though, honestly: how many times can the same discussion be beaten like a dead horse?

[CJ]

unsubscribing.

[347Mike]

This forum needs a tip etiquette sticky because this has been abused like a $5 bill...

[slow99]

And here we go again ... God al-fucking-mighty guys.

[GrayStangGT]

when it comes to tipping, you can always tell who the former waiters/waitresses were.

I think it can work both ways, I waited tables and bussed when I was younger so if I get excellent service I will tip well. However if your a shitty waiter then fuck you and the majority of your tip, and I'm not talking about ones that just simply have too many tables and are trying their best to keep up that I can understand and look past. When you've been a waiter it is easy to pick out the junk ones.

[ceyko]

I think that is when a manager should be brought into the situation and let him handle it.

Pisses me off to no end when a waiter doesnt get a tip because the food sucked. He didnt fuckin cook it!

I was never a waiter, but worked food stuff for a few years. I will NEVER - EVER send food back. I agree that it's not the server's fault per se. However...

1. A 10% tip may come from me if asked if everything "looks" okay and I never see from the waiter again. Especially so if something sucks.

2. A 10% tip may come when asked for a refill and however everything is and I explain a problem. I do expect them to offer to fix it, but again - I don't send anything back. If it is TERRIBLE I just ask for a refund and leave. I've done that before. However, it is just minor - I do expect a little comp.

Honestly, a 10% has never come from #2 - but it has come from #1 and that is a waiter issue. I will pipe up and complain if I absolutely can't eat the food or it is just that bad. I've always been taken care of there. (i.e. stone cold salmon or something at TGIF, after waiting 45 minutes for it.)

Way too long of a post to explain that sometimes I may tip low - based off bad food and in my mind it is a waiter issue.

[Gtracer]

Where the fuck do you eat? If my wife and I go eat the bill is usually 30-40 bucks. 10% vs 15% ranges from 3.00 - 4.50 or 4.00 - 6.00. that's 150- 200 pennies.

I said pennies, not how many pennies

We usually spend around 15-20 dollars as we usually share a meal I get water and so does she. We never eat dessert as I usually go back home and make something.

BTW, I have worked at Texas Land and Cattle, Olive Garden, Don Pablos, Chili's and Outback in the past...I was a bus boy, host, waiter and food runner not at the same time or in that order

[347Mike]

My problem lies with the fact that restaurant owners pay servers $2.XX an hour and somehow the customer is wrong for tipping $3 on a $30 check. I just paid you more than your employer (for the hour I was here), yet I'm the cheap one?

Personally I would rather the food cost more and pay servers at least minimum wage. I feel like management has shifted the responsibility to the customers, and in turn their employees direct their frustration towards them.

bcoop I see your class argument and I get your point. To carry that idea into mine, do you have any thoughts on the "class" of paying employees $2 an hour? I mean come on, that's pretty weak but I don't hear people griping about that.

(I have never worked in food service nor have I owned a restaurant so I know I'm no expert here, just my opinion.)

I am going to go out on the limb here and say your food prices will do a lot more than spike if you raised everyone to the actual minimum wage. You are talking about going from $2.XX to $6.25 or whatever it is.

Also if you pay them the actual minimum wage then the incentive to tip im sure would be even less and also removing the driving force that the good waiters have to make sure you are served properly.

[slow06]

My problem lies with the fact that restaurant owners pay servers $2.XX an hour and somehow the customer is wrong for tipping $3 on a $30 check. I just paid you more than your employer (for the hour I was here), yet I'm the cheap one?

Personally I would rather the food cost more and pay servers at least minimum wage. I feel like management has shifted the responsibility to the customers, and in turn their employees direct their frustration towards them.

bcoop I see your class argument and I get your point. To carry that idea into mine, do you have any thoughts on the "class" of paying employees $2 an hour? I mean come on, that's pretty weak but I don't hear people griping about that.

(I have never worked in food service nor have I owned a restaurant so I know I'm no expert here, just my opinion.)

[347Mike]

I think that is when a manager should be brought into the situation and let him handle it.

Pisses me off to no end when a waiter doesnt get a tip because the food sucked. He didnt fuckin cook it!

x2. It should be brought in as soon as you notice it being an issue, not when its all over and time to pay.

If you wait until its time to pay then you had the intent of stiffing them and you are no different than those people who eat 85% of their "shitty" food then want a refund because it was "dry."

[Jester]

I don't have a problem tipping at a restaurant, if I have a $15 bill I usually throw in a $5. All this is based on the service though. I am not a needy customer or one of those customers that runs the waiter/waitress like a personal slave for every little thing.

But what if you had a party of 5+, as in the case in question, and the service/food was shitty. do you think you should still be required to pay the 17% gratuity if everything was below standards.

I think that is when a manager should be brought into the situation and let him handle it.

Pisses me off to no end when a waiter doesnt get a tip because the food sucked. He didnt fuckin cook it!

[Jester]

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[Sean88gt]

I'm sensing potential confusion surrounding intended meaning of "class".

Correct, not social class (necessarily) but class - as in a set of traits, the integrity of an individual or the quality of their character.