Waiters take no tipper into their own hands.

[bcoop]

I know. Perhaps the restaurant was in a really tan section of Houston an the tip became mandatory because servers were working for min wage.

lmao. Servers don't make minimum wage, either. $2.13/hr.

[yellowstang]

Jeez, doing some Google searches, you see people say it is and isn't illegal to refuse to pay gratuity. We need an actual lawyer involved!

[Sean88gt]

That's not exactly new news... Middle Easterners and Europeans are just as bad.

I know. Perhaps the restaurant was in a really tan section of Houston an the tip became mandatory because servers were working for min wage.

[bcoop]

I was always told even if it's printed out, customers can refuse to pay "gratuity".

Not the places I worked at. It's added in to the total bill.

food $75.00
Tax $6.19
Gratutity $13.50
Total Due $94.69

[Denny]

I was always told even if it's printed out, customers can refuse to pay "gratuity".

Right. If not, then the "gratuity" can be at any rate the restauant deems fair. If it wasn't a set argreement (ie: a set price on the menu prior to the customer's order), then how can that even be honored as an agreement?

[DamonH]

Gratuity, when added by the restaurant, is NOT optional. That's the whole purpose of people adding 15-18% on parties of 8 or more (some restaurants do 6 or more).

I was always told even if it's printed out, customers can refuse to pay "gratuity".

[Mr_Fiux]

Trust me, they will sue.

What makes you say that?

[yellowstang]

Buncha slackers in here. No "just the tip" jokes!

[bcoop]

Now, everyone knows that blacks are shitty tippers.

That's not exactly new news... Middle Easterners and Europeans are just as bad.

[Hmbre97]

lol@graturry

But she paid the bill, just had an issue with the tip. I don't have an issue with them wanting their money, but shitty service with a dose of kidnapping will do more to harm their business than just removing the tip.

Now, everyone knows that blacks are shitty tippers.

In this case the tip was PART of the bill, not optional though.

[Sean88gt]

Not really. You have the right to detain someone if they are committing a crime. Of course you open yourself up to potential litigation if you do, but anyone can sue for any reason whatsoever any way. Snatch a pizza out of a delivery guys hands and slam your door in his face without paying, and the next knock at your front door will be Matt looking to take his anger out on someone after logging off here.

But she paid the bill, just had an issue with the tip. I don't have an issue with them wanting their money, but shitty service with a dose of kidnapping will do more to harm their business than just removing the tip.

Now, everyone knows that blacks are shitty tippers.

There were also signs plastered all over the front of the place stating the policy. I would have locked their asses in the walk in freezer and turned the lights out until the cops showed.

[ceyko]

IMHO, 17% is not unfair. I dislike mandatory tips that are higher - because I like to determine if someone gets 10, 15, 20 or 25% - but I'm quite okay with just 17%. If there is an issue, it can be handled otherwise.

[Broncojohnny]

I bet something like this happened when they started scanning through the menu:

Customer 1: Oh dang, look at this, it says you gotta pay 17% for 5 or more mother fuckin people. Mother fucker
Customer 2: Dang gurr, we got 5 or more mother fuckin people.
Customer 3 (The person paying): Shooot mother fucker, I ain't payin' no 17% mother fucking graturry, watch this mother fuckin shit...

Fixed