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Who is talking about killing him because of the robbery? I think you are confused. I would be hard pressed to define attacking an officer who has drawn down on you, as "resisting arrest".Originally posted by TENGRAM View PostBecause you can't kill people for robbery and/or resisting arrest. It's not right and it's not legal.
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You're the type of guy who would get killed in most situations like this.Originally posted by TENGRAM View PostThat's impressive. No way he should have killed an unarmed guy over a robbery. Nice to see a video of a cop doing their job well. Usually they only get bad press."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
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I have a 600 lumen LED Streamlight that you can't look at in broad day light.Originally posted by SSMAN View PostCop should have shined the flashlight in his face.
Yep, the cop lost the advantage that distance provides. You should NEVER go hands on with someone while you have a gun out. The fight can turn from controlling the suspect, to fighting over the gun in an instant.Originally posted by ceyko View PostI was always told/etc not to get that close if you have a gun. I guess the cop knows better then me, but it seems like how much bigger the guy was that gun could've been turned on him real fast.
Scrappy little guy though. (little in comparison to the crook)
Yea, like robbery is such a non-violent crime. That guy could have had a gun under all that clothing. I'm not saying I would have dropped the hammer on him, but robbery is a felony. If he would have ran, Texas law says an officer can shoot a fleeing felon.Originally posted by TENGRAM View PostThat's impressive. No way he should have killed an unarmed guy over a robbery. Nice to see a video of a cop doing their job well. Usually they only get bad press.
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Ch. 9.51 of the Texas Penal Code:Originally posted by TENGRAM View PostThat's kinda crazy. I'll keep that in mind in case I ever shoot an unarmed man and think about running from the cops afterward.
(c)A peace officer is justified in using deadly force
against another when and to the degree the peace officer reasonably
believes the deadly force is immediately necessary to make an
arrest, or to prevent escape after arrest, ....
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No reply tengrams?
I get it, you are a tough guy, a hard ass. Well I'm not. I'm not willing to gamble on the saftey of a criminal over the safety of others.Originally posted by TENGRAM View Posttry me.
You are being ridiculous, and apparently ignorant of the law. Crazy? I can't remember a time when that wasn't law.Originally posted by TENGRAM View PostThat's kinda crazy. I'll keep that in mind in case I ever shoot an unarmed man and think about running from the cops afterward.
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left out some important parts there, huh?Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostCh. 9.51 of the Texas Penal Code:
(c)A peace officer is justified in using deadly force
against another when and to the degree the peace officer reasonably
believes the deadly force is immediately necessary to make an
arrest, or to prevent escape after arrest, ....
(c) A peace officer is justified in using deadly force
against another when and to the degree the peace officer reasonably
believes the deadly force is immediately necessary to make an
arrest, or to prevent escape after arrest, if the use of force would
have been justified under Subsection (a) and:
(1) the actor reasonably believes the conduct for
which arrest is authorized included the use or attempted use of
deadly force; or
(2) the actor reasonably believes there is a
substantial risk that the person to be arrested will cause death or
serious bodily injury to the actor or another if the arrest is
delayed.
That's a significant difference from what you posted.
Sorry, life took priority today.Originally posted by Jimbo View PostNo reply tengrams?
I get it, you are a tough guy, a hard ass. Well I'm not. I'm not willing to gamble on the saftey of a criminal over the safety of others.
You are being ridiculous, and apparently ignorant of the law. Crazy? I can't remember a time when that wasn't law.
So what's to comment on? I've spelled out my thoughts on it for you in plain English. So who is ignorant of the law? See my reply above. You know, that's been the law for as long as I can remember.Last edited by TENGRAM; 12-19-2010, 06:52 PM.
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Whats to comment on? Life has taken a priority, yet you still managed three replies after I posed this question?Originally posted by TENGRAM View PostSorry, life took priority today.
So what's to comment on? I've spelled out my thoughts on it for you in plain English. So who is ignorant of the law? See my reply above. You know, that's been the law for as long as I can remember.
Yes you have explained that, for some reason, you are more interested in preserving the safety of a criminal than others around him.Originally posted by Jimbo View PostWho is talking about killing him because of the robbery? I think you are confused. I would be hard pressed to define attacking an officer who has drawn down on you, as "resisting arrest".
I said "apparently ignorant of the law", based on the previous post by an leo and my inability to remember any officer being persecuted for shooting a dangerous suspect that attacked him while weapon drawn. I'm willing to wager this officer would have had no problem explaining the legality of his actions if he had done so.
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LOL have you not followed DPD's string of unarmed citizen killings over the past year? DPD would have let out a scream that would make homos proud and shot him deadOriginally posted by big_tiger View PostThat just asks for a disablement of ones life.
Dallas PD would have waited for his turn to check out.
JK
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I glossed over this question originally because it did not look to me like he had attacked the officer at all; he merely tried to escape. After looking at the video again it does actually appear he attacked the cop at about the 0:50 mark. Therefore, yes, the cop could have legitimately shot the perp. I still don't think it was necessary and apparently neither did the cop. He even said as much:Originally posted by Jimbo View PostWho is talking about killing him because of the robbery? I think you are confused. I would be hard pressed to define attacking an officer who has drawn down on you, as "resisting arrest".
Huh, some cops have morals.“We wasn’t going to shoot the guy because he was unarmed,” Perez said.
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