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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostI can point you to numerous instances of cops doing it here. Would you like the mayor of a city face down in a puddle of his dog's blood one or the chainsaw through a door one?
I also laugh at people thinking all police should be experts in every type of weapon made on the face of the earth. I must have missed that course somewhere. I also hate to break it to you but they have BB and water guns that my pistol light will snap right on to and they look exactly like the real deal. Hell these kids will paint over the orange tip so they look even more real. I know its easy to judge all law enforcement by the stories you see on the news and if that is all you do every day is look for bad stories then you need a new hobby. Just like every other job out there you are going to have a percentage of bad apples, cowards, and other misc labels. I would wager the good around 85 percent, iffy 10 percent and bad 5 percent and most hiring standards are tough. I have guys that I have absolutly no interest in ever working with. You know they will be the last ones to show up on hot calls or just the opposite guys that fuck shit up a mile a minute. To be honest, a lot of the stories you post I just go wow what the fuck were they thinking but then there are others that could go either way depending on what happened. Even with the super strict hiring standards, back grounds, physical, lie detector tests, etc etc you still just never know what you are going to end up with.
A few weeks ago on a saturday in my city it was four officers and a sgt., and we handled exactly one hundred calls in a twelve hour shift. The bell rang at 1800 hours and the last one came in at 0445 hours. I have more years in then the other three combined but they are actually very good officers and willing to do right and learn. Think about the room for error shaggin that many calls in a shift with four people. I know it is easy to judge but sometimes you guys have no idea. I love my job and really enjoy helping people but this job is nothing like you see on TV. There are guys losing their jobs everyday for stupid shit and they should be you just do not see it on the news all the time like the other stories.
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Originally posted by Machx2 View PostI will say this, as an officer I have never kicked in a door I wasn't supposed to. In the military, it happened far too often. We did building searches on tons of houses, looking for one person. Of course, that would be illegal here.
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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostYou don't have to know how I treated people while in the Army because:
5. If we kicked in a door, we had to be 100% sure it was the right one, every time.
6. No kicking in random doors and opening fire on civilians because we 'thought' they had something or a 'confidential informant' told us something.
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Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostYou have no idea how I treat people. Just like I don't know how you treated people when you were in the Army.
1. I retain no power here in the states
2. I was governed by FAR stricter rules in the treatment of people actively trying to kill me in Iraq
3. Someone could point a rifle in my face while yelling and I had to, and I'm not kidding, treat them for a cut from taking their rifle from them (front sight post got caught on their hand when I took it away) and then I handed their loaded rifle back and sent them on their way.
4. I had no arrest powers
5. If we kicked in a door, we had to be 100% sure it was the right one, every time.
6. No kicking in random doors and opening fire on civilians because we 'thought' they had something or a 'confidential informant' told us something.
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Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostIf the exemption is a legal exemption allowed for the performance of lawful duties, then yes.
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Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostReally?
So just quit and run away? I'll leave the cowardice to you.
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And for todays installment...
These cock jockeys in blue wrote the guy up, and then told him he would have been in jail for child endangerment, had he saved the Jeep instead of his child. Bottom line is this guy was donating to the fund either way. Really jacked up!
"A New Jersey dad got the scare of his life when his 5-year-old son almost ran off a steep embankment, and though the man saved the boy from falling, he couldn't stop his Jeep from going over the precipice and into a river below.
The reward for his ordeal? Two traffic tickets from local police.
Frank Roder, a construction worker from the town of Winfield Park, had taken his son, Aidan, down to the Rahway River to feed ducks Thursday. But when he stopped briefly before settling on a parking space, the impatient boy jumped out and took off -- straight toward a ledge 35 feet above the river, Roder recalled.
"He hopped out, and I thought that was OK, I was just going to park," Roder, 38, said, but "he just took off, made a beeline for the edge."
The panic-stricken father jumped out of the cab of his 2006 Jeep Commander and raced after the errant boy, catching him just feet from the edge.
That's when Aidan, eyes as big as saucers, looked behind Roder and said, "Um, Daddy ..."
Roder turned in time to see the Jeep nosedive down the embankment and land in the muddy water.
Roder hugged the boy and waited as Union County police converged on the scene over the next few hours. A crane pulled the Jeep out, and amazingly, it started right up, though Roder is pretty sure his insurance company will count it as totaled.
He was counting his blessings when a young cop approached him and handed him two tickets. One was for failure to produce the insurance card, which was somewhere in the waterlogged cab. The other was for failing to use his emergency brake.
"I couldn't believe it," Roder said. "He said, 'If you would have taken the five seconds to apply the brake, this never would have happened!'
"I say, 'Really? And if I did and my boy stepped over the edge and fell instead of the Jeep, then were would I be?' He says, 'Jail, for child endangerment.'"
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Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostYou are sadly mistaken if you think this to be true. I still get PMs requesting me for info and advice.
Just because you are a piece of shit, don't think I am too.
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Originally posted by Broncojohnny View PostHe has done more to damage the reputation of the police on this board than a thousand of these FTP threads. Congratulations on the great job you are doing, 03bluballsgt!!
You are sadly mistaken if you think this to be true. I still get PMs requesting me for info and advice.
Just because you are a piece of shit, don't think I am too.
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Originally posted by racrguy View PostHe fully stands behind the exemptions afforded to LEO's. At least some of his posts in the past indicate that.
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Originally posted by LANTIRN View PostIf you don't want to be lumped in with the "bad cops" you should just take off the badge. A large part of this crowd doesn't trust law enforcement and with good reason. I can think of 3 officers I have ever fully trusted and that is only because I knew them personnaly. If you want us to respect your authoriti! and trust cops then get the laws changed so you are held to the exact standards we are; IE you have to know and abide by EVERY law back to front and if not you go to jail.
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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostSuch as:
Giving cops tickets when they speed and are not on a call
Giving cops tickets for talking on a cell phone while driving at high speeds
Giving cops tickets for running redlights
Giving cops tickets for tailgating
Arresting cops for assault
Arresting cops for shooting innocents
Arresting cops for breaking and entering (entering a premises without warrant)
I could keep going
You have no idea how I treat people. Just like I don't know how you treated people when you were in the Army.
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