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  • 347Mike
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Thanks for saving me the trouble of getting out my sledge hammer to respond to all that nonsense, Matt.
    What am I? Chopped liver?!

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  • talisman
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    Thanks for saving me the trouble of getting out my sledge hammer to respond to all that nonsense, Matt.

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  • Strychnine
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    Originally posted by mustangguy289 View Post
    1. Does this mean they are accidently about to cause another big bang and create another universe inside of this universe? Would that make them god of that new universe?
    No.


    Originally posted by mustangguy289 View Post
    2. If the Higgs Boson created the big bang... what created the Higgs Boson?
    You're logic is backwards. The Higgs Boson did not create the Big Bang. The Big Bang happened and then the Higgs was created.

    Theory:
    After the Big Bang particles had no mass. As the fucking rapidly expanding shit cooled the Higgs Field formed. This field permeates all of the universe and anything that interacts with the field is given mass via the Higgs Boson. More interaction means more mass, less interaction means less mass (eg. photons would have zero interaction).

    When trying to explain the four fundamental forces of nature (weak, strong, electromagnetic, gravitational) scientists realized that the weak and electromagnetic forces could actually be described in the same theory ("unified") and this led to the development of The Standard Model. But there was a catch... to make the theory work mathematically the Higgs Boson has to exist.

    It should be noted that the Standard Model actually predicted something like 16 fundamental particles (like quarks and leptons which are then made up of other stuff, etc) and all of them but the Higgs Boson have been confirmed via experiment.


    Originally posted by mustangguy289 View Post
    3. Proving Big Bang occured does not prove or disprove that there is a supreme being.
    Who said it did? Don't misunderstand the use of the term "God" in this one. It's a clever name, nothing more.

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  • mustangguy289
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    Originally posted by 347Mike View Post
    Not at all. There are tons of things that were discovered inadvertently by little minute things such as this. This in particular just opens a whole new worlds of possible discoveries.

    Do you think scientist were looking for ways to see inside a body when they discovered the MRI machine or were they trying study the composition of chemical compounds?
    I didn't say it was stupid or unworthy... I just thought it was ironic the way they worded it.

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  • 347Mike
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    Originally posted by mustangguy289 View Post
    Does anyone else see the irony in this?

    Investing billion of dollars to "hunt" for something that only exists for a billionth of a billionth of a billionth second?
    Not at all. There are tons of things that were discovered inadvertently by little minute things such as this. This in particular just opens a whole new worlds of possible discoveries.

    Do you think scientist were looking for ways to see inside a body when they discovered the MRI machine or were they trying study the composition of chemical compounds?

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  • mustangguy289
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    Originally posted by 347Mike View Post
    1. Don't know. I am sure there is a scientific reason, me personally, I don't know.

    2. The higgs is a result of smashing two particles together at almost the speed of light.

    3. I don't think the purpose of this experiment was to know if there is a supreme being but allow their big bang theory to hold more true.
    1. I agree with you haha. However, I guess we can see if the big bang theory is true if it creates another universe lol.

    2. Well if Higgs is the result of two other particles... then how would it be the "God particle". Would it not be the product of two other "God particles"? (What came first.... the chicken, the egg, or the higgs boson)

    3. I know they aren't but reading through the comments on yahoo... it seems non-believers think this is proof that there isn't a god. I am simply saying it neither proves or disproves it.

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  • mustangguy289
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    —have invested billions of dollars in research and have been hunting for the Higgs boson for decades.


    . "It exists for a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a second, or something like that, and then falls apart into other particles."
    Does anyone else see the irony in this?

    Investing billion of dollars to "hunt" for something that only exists for a billionth of a billionth of a billionth second?

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  • 347Mike
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    Originally posted by mustangguy289 View Post
    1. Does this mean they are accidently about to cause another big bang and create another universe inside of this universe? Would that make them god of that new universe?

    2. If the Higgs Boson created the big bang... what created the Higgs Boson?

    3. Proving Big Bang occured does not prove or disprove that there is a supreme being.
    1. Don't know. I am sure there is a scientific reason, me personally, I don't know.

    2. The higgs is a result of smashing two particles together at almost the speed of light.

    3. I don't think the purpose of this experiment was to know if there is a supreme being but allow their big bang theory to hold more true.

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  • mustangguy289
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    1. Does this mean they are accidently about to cause another big bang and create another universe inside of this universe? Would that make them god of that new universe?

    2. If the Higgs Boson created the big bang... what created the Higgs Boson?

    3. Proving Big Bang occured does not prove or disprove that there is a supreme being.

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  • jdgregory84
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    Sweet! One step closer to this!

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  • Unicorn Jeff
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    Originally posted by abecx View Post
    Sup, I can control and manipulate mass, aka gravity if I can understand how the universe created mass/gravity in the first place.

    What this means to you, antigravity, increase speed ( 'warp' drive ), and a shitload more that has nothing to do with mass.
    I haZ b0n3rz

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  • abecx
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    Originally posted by TX21 View Post
    I hope they put in in terms us "stupid" people can understand. I hope they get something out if it, like perpetual motion or something like that.
    Sup, I can control and manipulate mass, aka gravity if I can understand how the universe created mass/gravity in the first place.

    What this means to you, antigravity, increase speed ( 'warp' drive ), and a shitload more that has nothing to do with mass.

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  • 347Mike
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    Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
    Higgs (in theory) didn't start it all, but it's what gives matter mass which is obviously a pretty fucking big deal.


    It's also the only particle predicted by The Standard Model that has not been directly observed.
    I knew you would be chiming in! Good thing I got my disclaimer in there!

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  • Strychnine
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    Originally posted by 347Mike View Post
    Those folks at CERN have this big machine, The Hadron Collider that smashes particles together at 99% the speed of light. It was created to see if they can see how the universe became what it is today (Big Bang Theory) as a result of years of testing they finally found the Higgs boson the "god particle" which is thought to have started it all.

    That's it in a nutshell. I am sure I missed a few things or mis-represented something but you get the idear.

    Higgs (in theory) didn't start it all, but it's what gives matter mass which is obviously a pretty fucking big deal.


    It's also the only particle predicted by The Standard Model that has not been directly observed.

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  • 347Mike
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    Originally posted by TX21 View Post
    I hope they put in in terms us "stupid" people can understand. I hope they get something out if it, like perpetual motion or something like that.
    Those folks at CERN have this big machine, The Hadron Collider that smashes particles together at 99% the speed of light. It was created to see if they can see how the universe became what it is today (Big Bang Theory) as a result of years of testing they finally found the Higgs boson the "god particle" which is thought to have started it all.

    That's it in a nutshell. I am sure I missed a few things or mis-represented something but you get the idear.

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