Director Tony Scott comitts suicide.

[CJ]

I'm just growing tired of arguing with you, when you don't see the point I am making. You're dug in, as am I. You've got your opinion, as do I. It is what it is.

The difference being I shouldn't share my opinion in accordance with your personal morality. That's the whole point here. And that's what you refuse to acknowledge.

[bcoop]

Okay I guess you can't see the hypocrisy, that's a shame. I've already proven it with your own words, I guess admitting fault is above you.

I'm just growing tired of arguing with you, when you don't see the point I am making. You're dug in, as am I. You've got your opinion, as do I. It is what it is.

[CJ]

No, it's not really the same in my opinion. Though I'm sure we will disagree on this as well. You up and called a dead man who committed suicide a piece of shit, without knowing any of the circumstances. You're very much alive, and able to defend me calling you a piece of shit. Now, if I called one of your dead relatives a piece of shit, that would be apples to apples. But I didn't, nor would I. Not in the same situation, anyways. Turns out the inoperable brain cancer is true, and shit like that is precisely why I didn't make a snap judgement like so many did.

Okay I guess you can't see the hypocrisy, that's a shame. I've already proven it with your own words, I guess admitting fault is above you.

[bcoop]

You called me a pathetic piece of shit, don't you think that's kind of hypocritical?

No, it's not really the same in my opinion. Though I'm sure we will disagree on this as well. You up and called a dead man who committed suicide a piece of shit, without knowing any of the circumstances. You're very much alive, and able to defend me calling you a piece of shit. Now, if I called one of your dead relatives a piece of shit, that would be apples to apples. But I didn't, nor would I. Not in the same situation, anyways. Turns out the inoperable brain cancer is true, and shit like that is precisely why I didn't make a snap judgement like so many did.

[CJ]

It's not your disagreeing with me that is disrespectful, and I don't look at it that way. You're entitled to your opinion, as is anyone. Calling him a piece of shit, is what's disrespectful. It's disrespectful to him, and to his family. That's what I've said all along. I don't know how else to break it down for you.

You called me a pathetic piece of shit, don't you think that's kind of hypocritical? You also accused me of being holier than thou whilst forming an argument based on personal morality and then denying it. You can see the hypocrisy in that right?

[bcoop]

Defense = personal morality. It really is a shame you can't admit what is so obvious. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone based on morality, but to deny that's what you doing is childish. You shouldn't let your ego and pride get you this emotional. You take everything as being disrespectful, if I disagree with you I'm being disrespectful.

I have literally no ego, nor pride invested in this deal. I've got nothing but the time spent typing my replies. And I'm not emotional about it, either. By the same logic, you would be emotional as well. I'm fairly certain you're not, and I know I'm not, so it's best not to make assumptions.

It's not your disagreeing with me that is disrespectful, and I don't look at it that way. You're entitled to your opinion, as is anyone. Calling him a piece of shit, is what's disrespectful. It's disrespectful to him, and to his family. That's what I've said all along. I don't know how else to break it down for you.

no shit. Brent has seriously climbed up on a high horse lately. It is getting ridiculous.

Oh, because I said your post came across as you making excuses with the PTSD crap in the other thread? Give me a fucking break... I stuck up for you when the entire board was bashing your insanity for your recent marriage. I did so, and respectfully cautioned you about what you were getting yourself in to. And had it been you that offed yourself, I'd have done the same here. I'm pretty fucking cold hearted myself, I just don't get why anyone would be so cold hearted as to call them a pussy or a piece of shit in such a sensitive situation.

[Jester]

okay wait.....so he might have had inoperable brain cancer? Well, that's a different story. I mean.....that's a pretty damned good reason.

And the same guys talking about dissrespect in one thread and then the first fucking thing they want to do is post nude pics of Scott's wife? i love this board

[Jester]

Money can buy good healthcare but it can't buy good health.

exactly. Might have been his biggest fear all his life was facing growing old and useless like so many people think they will be.

[Jester]

CJ and Levi - ill respond again when I get to my destination. Currently stuck in a traffic jam due to a grass fire.

Be careful bro.. Even though you turned into a snob lately, I would hate to make a disrespectful joke in the thread someone starts about ur car catching fire.......i will though.....apparently i am awesome at it!

[Jester]

It doesn't make me feel any better. It actually disgusts me that there are people with as little tact as you, and many others. I mean, Levi attempted suicide (more than once I believe), yet thinks it's funny to make jokes when someone else does.

I dont think it is funny that he killed himself, it just blows my mind that someone like him would. I mean, what are your problems when you are Tony Scott? What made him do it?

The reason so many people do it is because they cant afford to get help. But when you are a master of the universe and you off yourself, it just makes me go huh?

Take me for instance. If I was able to smoke the best hydro every day of my life and be able to create art all day every day......well, i wouldnt have been depressed. Society wont let me smoke and my art is not worth millions cuz frankly it sucks. It makes me happy to do it.....but it is no Top Gun.

So, when i see someone busting his ass every day to get out of a rut and the world keeps slamming him down and he ends up offing himself, I can understand it much better than why Tony Scott would.

Maybe he did it because his biggest fear was of getting really old. Who knows?

Is it really hard to understand that it is more suprising to see a millionaire amazing director kill himself over a regular everyday guy?

[bcoop]

CJ and Levi - ill respond again when I get to my destination. Currently stuck in a traffic jam due to a grass fire.

[CJ]

Money can buy good healthcare but it can't buy good health.

It's a shame the guy was in that situation, realizing your own mortality. It's something I have always feared. But unfortunately I have had many close family members had this happen in the last two years, my father and my father in law. Honestly they are my heroes for dealing with it in such a respectful manner. I cannot think of a more difficult situation to be put in. And that's precisely why I'm so unsympathetic to suicide.

[Jester]

LMAO, so this one is different because you didn't know someone who knew the dude? or is it because he was rich and successful?

RICH AND SUCCESSFUL. You can get help from the FINEST doctors in the world. You can even pay them to stay at your house and treat you fulltime. You can AFFORD to get help. Money makes it easier to get help and change your life. No money just adds to the stress you are going thru.

[46Tbird]

Fuck yeah I want to be a rich guy living in Beverly Hills that can do whatever the fuck I want on a daily basis. Sign me up! Green with envy. Yes please!

Count me in.

[Nash B.]

Money can buy good healthcare but it can't buy good health.