Director Tony Scott comitts suicide.

[Jester]

What's pathetic is you claiming we're speaking from a moral high horse, while simultaneously you preach from the same standpoint. What makes you right? Because it makes you feel better? Get real, the man killed himself in the highest form of selfishness there is. That's the fact, and that's the only thing I'm focusing on. If you makes you feel better to defend the guy and judge others, go right ahead. I'm not on the warm and fuzzy train, I try to keep things cold logical.

no shit. Brent has seriously climbed up on a high horse lately. It is getting ridiculous.

I understand suicide like I have said before and discussed it thoroughly, but I dont understand what can make a man like that do it.

And in response to Brent saying we are all jealous...... WELL NO FUCKING SHIT SHERLOCK!!!!!!!!! what's your point? Fuck yeah I want to be a rich guy living in Beverly Hills that can do whatever the fuck I want on a daily basis. Sign me up! Green with envy. Yes please!

[Jester]

Because those things don't cure mental illness.

i can understand that, but you would think money sure does take a shitload of stress off of you. I mean, i understand mental illness, but he could have afforded help. And not just help, but the best help that planet earth can provide. I understand guys that have it hard and the world keeps slamming them and throw in some mental illness, etc, offing themselves. But when you have accomplished what he had and you have the money he had, you think help would be easy to come by........and also.....why would you get into that mental state? You can literally afford to do anything on the planet to get you out of depression.

[CJ]

You're trying to bait me in to a circular argument, and I'm out of time. I think what you said was wrong. You think he's a piece of shit for what he did. I think you're a pathetic piece of shit. I've done nothing more than you've done many times over the course of the two boards. Have a good day.

Defense = personal morality. It really is a shame you can't admit what is so obvious. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone based on morality, but to deny that's what you doing is childish. You shouldn't let your ego and pride get you this emotional. You take everything as being disrespectful, if I disagree with you I'm being disrespectful.

[ELVIS]

Closet homosexual. Car gave it away.

brent or cj?

god bless.

[Sean88gt]

Closet homosexual. Car gave it away.

[bcoop]

bingo, defense = personal morality. You just did it again.

You're trying to bait me in to a circular argument, and I'm out of time. I think what you said was wrong. You think he's a piece of shit for what he did. I think you're a pathetic piece of shit. I've done nothing more than you've done many times over the course of the two boards. Have a good day.

[CJ]

No, you used part of my statements to suit your argument. Which is what someone does when they can't admit that what they did was uncalled for.

bingo, defense = personal morality. You just did it again.

You said it clear as day. Nothing was used other than your own statements. You are practicing everything you accused me of and evidence was provided. I'm sorry it upsets you. You're attempting to obfuscate using your personal morality again. I'm focusing on nothing other than your own words. Your intention is irrelevant. There is no denying that you're telling me my opinion should not be shared because it offends your moral opinions. It is the entire basis of your argument. And you're using moral opinions as defense. I said exactly what I meant, and there are many people that agree with me, I'm merely the only one that won't fold. Just as many people have the opposite opinion - which I completely understand. I completely understand what you are trying to say - I understand your morals and your reasoning.

Do you understand what I'm saying? Yes bcoop, you are in fact disagreeing with me because I do not conform to your personal morality. I do think Tony Scott was a coward, selfish, and a piece of shit for doing that to his family. Yes I do feel that way. And yes I understand you do not, and yes I understand why you feel that way. And yes - you are in fact disagreeing with me because I do not feel the compassion you do. And yes, you want me to feel the same way you do or not share my opinion. You said it yourself, and now that we've dissected the discussion we've arrived here. I'm hoping it makes sense now.

[BradM]

I'm going to get you guys chl revoked.

[bcoop]

You said it clear as day. Nothing was used other than your own statements. You are practicing everything you accused me of and evidence was provided. I'm sorry it upsets you. You're attempting to obfuscate using your personal morality again. I'm focusing on nothing other than your own words. Just because that wasn't your intention doesn't mean you didn't do it.

No, you used part of my statements to suit your argument. Which is what someone does when they can't admit that what they did was uncalled for.

[mardyn]

Suicide: A permanent solution to (usually**) temporary problems.


** who knows for sure? He may have be diagnosed with some horrible terminal disease and decided to take the quick way out. Maybe the note left behind will shed some light onto the situation.

mardyn

[Big A]

The act of suicide says to me that he felt that being a father or husband was worth less than whatever reason he had for killing himself. That is my opinion/fact, and not shitting on anyone.

Get off your high-horse Brent.

[CJ]

And you conveniently left out the rest of my sentence, because it doesn't help prove the point you are trying to make. Read it in it's totality, understand what I posted. Come back when you understand what I said. You're better than nitpicking and arguing only parts of what I said. Read it all, or find someone else to argue with.

You said it clear as day. Nothing was used other than your own statements. You are practicing everything you accused me of and evidence was provided. I'm sorry it upsets you. You're attempting to obfuscate using your personal morality again. I'm focusing on nothing other than your own words. Your intention is irrelevant. There is no denying that you're telling me my opinion should not be shared because it offends your moral opinions. It is the entire basis of your argument. And you're using moral opinions as defense. I said exactly what I meant, and there are many people that agree with me, I'm merely the only one that won't fold. Just as many people have the opposite opinion - which I completely understand. I completely understand what you are trying to say - I understand your morals and your reasoning.

[bcoop]

Not once have I asked you to have compassion, or to feel about it like I do. And I'm not castigating you for not feeling like I do. Perhaps you need to work on your reading comprehension. All I'm saying, is not to shit all over the man and his family because you don't understand how someone can do something like this. And not to talk shit about him. I'm not saying you can't have an opinion. I'm saying to practice a little tact and keep it to yourself. Say what you want about the act, but don't judge the person who carried it out so harshly, when you have no idea what kind of shit he was dealing with.

This is what I'm referring to. In this very sentence you said I'm not saying you can't have an opinion, but don't have one. That's what I've highlighted here. The reason why you don't want me to speak my mind, is because you disagree with it on a moral ground - that is exactly what you just said. Do you understand now? You're flooding your perception and arguments with emotion, and it doesn't make any sense. You're putting words into my mouth based on your perception, and you're making conclusions based on your personal morality "practice a little tact." You're opinion is just as subjective and valid as my own, but you feel yours is far more important - this is the exact definition of "holier than thou." And that is true hypocrisy.

And you conveniently left out the rest of my sentence, because it doesn't help prove the point you are trying to make. Read it in it's totality, understand what I posted. Come back when you understand what I said. You're better than nitpicking and arguing only parts of what I said. Read it all, or find someone else to argue with.


If the inoperable brain cancer thing is true, then I do sympathize with him. Why put your family through the pain, agony, and financial burden that is brain cancer? CJ - If that is true about your father, then you know exactly what I'm talking about. Quality of life is terrible. You become a burden on your family. Yes, that is what families are for. And when it's family, it's not really a burden, per se, but you know what I mean. He could have drained his familiy's bank accounts trying to keep himself alive. One could argue doing so would have been selfish as well. Also, tumors can affect the thought processes of the brain. I saw it with my father in law. Many days, he just wasn't rational. He thought we were trying to poison him. He was paranoid. At times, he didn't recognize anyone. In such circumstances, I can absolutely see how a tumor might cause someone to do something irrational.

I normally say suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. If that is true, there is no solution, in this situation.

[Rick Modena]

no.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!1111!!!

[CJ]

That's only b/c I've never thought about offing myself.

You know, I've never considered it, but that could very well be true for a lot of the sympathizers.