Naked unarmed college student murdered by police

[SEB]

why should he? the guy wanted a fight and got one...

personal accountability in this country went out the window a looong time ago

Point is the guy was naked and in no way show deadly force to the officer. Also as mentioned above the officer had other options on his belt other then his gun. Taser, Baton, Pepperspray, Hell Pepperspray & Taze his ass & then beat his ass with the Baton. No need to kill a naked guy

[ceyko]

Don't recall ever seeing a taser deployed in the middle of a wrestling match.

My point was more along the lines of - just because he is a 132 pounds does not mean he should not be taken seriously. (A few posts indicated the cop/person should not fear a 132 pound person) Still tazer/etc things apply, but not knowing someones background is reason enough to retaliate as severely as needed. Regardless if a person is 90 pounds or 300.

From my perspective, shooting does seem severe but it's also a half-ass story. I could see little details about a knife or something being left out or just not known.

[grove rat]

Point is the guy was naked and in no way show deadly force to the officer. Also as mentioned above the officer had other options on his belt other then his gun. Taser, Baton, Pepperspray, Hell Pepperspray & Taze his ass & then beat his ass with the Baton. No need to kill a naked guy

give me a break seb, you and me both know someone can go down/die from just the right punch to the temple. why should the cop put his life on the line(by going toe-to-toe) for some crazy nutjob who is naked attacking people?

[BradM]

give me a break seb, you and me both know someone can go down/die from just the right punch to the temple. why should the cop put his life on the line(by going toe-to-toe) for some crazy nutjob who is naked attacking people?

People can't hurt cops without weapons. Cops can always power out of it.

[jewozzy]

another article says after the guy was shot he charged the officer again. sounds like he was on wet to me...

[Tannerm]

May I remind u armchair quarterbacks that pcp or even k2 can make u super human? Meaning taser is just a quaint little tickle and oc is a water bottle. Until the story comes completely out I'm pretty sure this all happened in a matter of seconds, getting "backup" doesn't magically appear in a second. I havee had the privilege of tangling with a high naked skinny kid who threw me and another good sized fit officer around AFTER being sprayed. He just rubbed it off and rubbed his nuts and smiled at us. He was on K2 or bath salts this time. Pcp is everywhere still. Jason saying 3 houses for sure are tagged as hazard locations is a bunch in a city. Most pcp or psycho drug addicts aren't always well known. It's usually a first timer who flips out and his friends call 911 because there buddy is buck neked and jumping fences while banging on there back windows.

[racrguy]

May I remind u armchair quarterbacks that pcp or even k2 can make u super human? Meaning taser is just a quaint little tickle and oc is a water bottle. Until the story comes completely out I'm pretty sure this all happened in a matter of seconds, getting "backup" doesn't magically appear in a second. I havee had the privilege of tangling with a high naked skinny kid who threw me and another good sized fit officer around AFTER being sprayed. He just rubbed it off and rubbed his nuts and smiled at us. He was on K2 or bath salts this time. Pcp is everywhere still. Jason saying 3 houses for sure are tagged as hazard locations is a bunch in a city. Most pcp or psycho drug addicts aren't always well known. It's usually a first timer who flips out and his friends call 911 because there buddy is buck neked and jumping fences while banging on there back windows.

Tasers don't work on the pain mechanism. Sure, it may not "hurt" but with the electricity coursing through your muscles causing an involuntary contraction, there isn't shit you can do, PCP or not.

[Buick355]

People can't hurt cops without weapons. Cops can always power out of it.

LOL!


The cop may have not had enough time to see if the guy was unarmed or not, It was dark and the guy is charging him butt ass naked. For all the cop knew he had a knife in his hand. If this was a calm conversation between him and the naked guy and the cop put a bullet in him for no reason, or the crackhead was trying to run away and the cop shot him in the back I can see the outrage. I think the shooting was justified. The kid's death was just a unfortunate outcome of his bad decision to use bath salts, get naked, try to break into a police station, and then charge a cop in a fit of rage.

[talisman]

We don't know that he was on any type of drugs yet. Getting naked on a college campus is hardly something new and unheard of.

[Tannerm]

A lot of dept don't have tasters either. Seen as too aggressive or not cost effective. But tasers don't always work on high individuals. Google it and u'll see some crazy sob's who power through a taser shot. Taser vs OC or baton is definitely ur best line of defense. If that don't work, or have previous experiance with it being useless, it's hard to not chose a sure thing. If not, he will wear u out waaaay before his high is over.

[BradM]

Tasers don't work on the pain mechanism. Sure, it may not "hurt" but with the electricity coursing through your muscles causing an involuntary contraction, there isn't shit you can do, PCP or not.

I know the science behind tasers but it really seems to be more often ineffective against someone on pcp. We had a guy shot with a taser by 3 different officers at different times that pulled the barbs out and kept fighting. He was a small guy 160lbs maybe. I didn't get to the call until 5 officers had worked their way into finally getting him into handcuffs and he was still jumping up and trying to fight. Oh, he was naked too. They had used all of their weapons on hm except their pistols. 5 on 1. That shit is serious.

[Tannerm]

We don't know that he was on any type of drugs yet. Getting naked on a college campus is hardly something new and unheard of.

Lol sad troof! Immaturity is grand isn't it?

[jewozzy]

Tasers don't work on the pain mechanism. Sure, it may not "hurt" but with the electricity coursing through your muscles causing an involuntary contraction, there isn't shit you can do, PCP or not.

thats not correct. ive been involved in a fight with a guy on pcp that was being tazed and ripped the prongs out...

[Buick355]

We don't know that he was on any type of drugs yet. Getting naked on a college campus is hardly something new and unheard of.

The naked thing alone doesn't make me think he was on drugs, but the combination of being naked, banging on a police station window, and then charging a police officer in a rage after the cop supposedly tried to diffuse the situation does.

I'm sure there is more to the story than what's in this article though. No matter what it sucks that it happened and I agree it could have possibly been handled differently, but I don't fault the cop for shooting the guy with the info given.

[SS Junk]

thats not correct. ive been involved in a fight with a guy on pcp that was being tazed and ripped the prongs out...

How far apart were the prongs? People are amazed when stories like this arise, but do not realize if the prongs are too close together it will not have the same affect.