Employment Contract Negotiations

[BlackGT]

Unfortunately, this job is in no way related to my degree. My contact for the position has hopes of me moving to construction manager within 12-18 months, which would be a pay increase. However, at this point, I would consider it a step backwards in responsibility. I am currently in a management role, the position I would be taking, is only a management role by name (warranty manager).

But does it have more potential to open more doors for you with that same company or another company, and possibly allow you to put your degree to use, once you gain some experience? More so than where you are now? Sounds like it does and that is what you should base your decision on. But don't settle for their first offer. You need to counter with what I posted above and what Roscoe posted.

[black2002ls]

There are promotion opportunities with this company, though they are limited as it is a smaller company. As for related to my degree, it is in no way related, though currently, I think the only way my degree is going to do me any good is to go teach mach or physics (my degree field).

[SVT Lurch]

Personally, I would take it and start getting real world experience related to your degree. Consider it a stepping stone.

Even though it's not related to your degree, as long as you don't end up making less money overall, I agree that this is your foot in the door to get the experience all the other jobs are telling you that you need.

[8mpg]

Other than the gas money, will they reimburse mileage? Current reimbursement is $.0565/mile which really adds up.

[lowthreeohz]

Gas reimbursement doesn't add up like you think, even less so when youre not in a econobox. It pays for fuel and an oil change basically, you barely come out ahead if at all.

[bcoop]

Tough deal. I say counter @ $38,000, and double the gas. You can write off the mileage and wear on your car at tax time, but that only reduces your tax liability.


But I would take it if I were you. It gets you out of retail. Here's the deal, retail management experience doesn't mean squat in the grand scheme of things. Not until you get up in to regional management. And retail positions aren't exactly quality to have on he resume. They tend to attract a certain type of employee, IMO, and that's not a good thing to associate yourself with. JMO, of course.

That fuel reimbursement deal sucks ass though. Makes me appreciate my deal that much more.

[bcoop]

Gas reimbursement doesn't add up like you think, even less so when youre not in a econobox. It pays for fuel and an oil change basically, you barely come out ahead if at all.

Exactly. We get a flat fee monthly for use of our vehicles. I buy one tank a month, they buy the rest. I come out ahead, but its because of the allowance. Reimbursement is a shitty deal, and covers no maintenance, tires, etc.

[Chas_svo]

Another thing to consider is wear and tear on your vehicle. Long ago, maybe '89 or so, it was more than $8/hr.

Anybody have a "real" number for today?

[black2002ls]

I gave my counter offer just a bit ago. I told them I was at $38000 base salary. I threw out fuel and maintenance costs, as well as for it to make sense for me with increased time away from home.

[BMCSean]

Good luck Russell.

[black2002ls]

Thanks, his demeanor at the end of the conversation was more of a, it has been nice talking with you, and don't expect to hear back from me. We shall see

[Roscoe]

Thanks, his demeanor at the end of the conversation was more of a, it has been nice talking with you, and don't expect to hear back from me. We shall see

Best of luck. If they rescind the offer because you countered, it's a sign of how they would operate upon employment.

[Swamp Donkey]

Best of luck. If they rescind the offer because you countered, it's a sign of how they would operate upon employment.

Good luck, Russell. And I completely agree with this ^^^

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Thanks, his demeanor at the end of the conversation was more of a, it has been nice talking with you, and don't expect to hear back from me. We shall see

I that is how they are approaching it I would be glad you didn't get the gig. Sounds like they might run through a lot of employees.

[black2002ls]

Well, It has been a month and a half since my final interview with the VP. I know that they went on and interviewed at least 100 more candidates. I almost get the feeling that they made the same offer to a few other people and they turned it down as well. It may be pompous of me, but I wont take less than the $38K I countered with. For the time away from home wear and tear on my truck, that is what it would take. With 170K on the clock, my truck would have to be replaced within 12-18 months anyway. The other factor that would play in is that my side business is picking up a bit, leads are becoming more plentiful, and that is $3-4K a year in income that wouldn't be there because I wouldn't have time to do it anymore.