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  • Jester
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    To visit. I don't have the patience to see you regularly...
    lmao touche'

    Man, i honestly dont think yall would recognize me anymore. I am no longer that idiot with a chip on his shoulder......and my tolerance with alcohol is probably about the same as a freshman in highschool! Im a cheap date now! lulz

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  • talisman
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    Originally posted by Jester View Post
    Permanently? never, if I can help it.
    To visit? the second I can!

    To visit. I don't have the patience to see you regularly...

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  • Jester
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    When the fuck're you coming back to dfw?
    Permanently? never, if I can help it.
    To visit? the second I can!

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  • talisman
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    Originally posted by Jester View Post
    dropped on my head too many times i guess.


    When the fuck're you coming back to dfw?

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  • Jester
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Your brother sounds badass. What happened to you?
    dropped on my head too many times i guess.

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  • talisman
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    Originally posted by Jester View Post
    I understand this, but the majority of time there is very little danger unlike, say, kicking in doors on SWAT.........this comes from my bro.....who kicks in doors on SWAT.

    Your brother sounds badass. What happened to you?

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  • Jester
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Traffic stops are one of the most dangerous parts of their jobs, Levi.
    I understand this, but the majority of time there is very little danger unlike, say, kicking in doors on SWAT.........this comes from my bro.....who kicks in doors on SWAT.

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  • jyro
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    going off percentages

    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Traffic stops are one of the most dangerous parts of their jobs, Levi.
    I'd be willing to bet domestic calls are far more dangerous.

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  • jyro
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    lol

    Originally posted by Jester View Post
    Do you feel safer with police around?
    If I was a dog I wouldn't.

    I'm older, short haircut, kept my nose clean for the last 30 years. Police don't really fuck with me at all. In all, Police around or not, I feel safe. Being aware of your surroundings can make you feel safer and a LOT more prepared.

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  • talisman
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    I was actually being serious for a change.

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  • JamisonFRC
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Traffic stops are one of the most dangerous parts of their jobs, Levi.
    I'm not sure if you are being serious or not... But they truly are. It's a complete unknown. At least with a call for service you have some information (accurate or not) about what you are responding to.

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  • talisman
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    Traffic stops are one of the most dangerous parts of their jobs, Levi.

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  • Jester
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    Originally posted by JamisonFRC View Post
    When I was a kid I loved cops. My parents taught me that they are there to help. When I was a teenager I hated cops. Not because I thought they were crooked but I was scared I would get busted for acting like an idiot.

    Then college comes around and I grow up. I get a few speeding tickets. Of course I'm pissed in the moment. This is going to cost me money. But I was speeding. I ate my shit sandwich and moved on.

    After a few more years passed I decided to give it a shot. I took the test, passed the extensive background check and started the academy. I've been on over eight years. I've been a field training officer, detective, bike patrol (not motors, forget that noise!) firearms instructor, etc.

    I've seen other officers be abrasive to citizens. I won't say "asshole" because I don't think it went quite that far. Does it happen? No doubt. We deal with the whole spectrum of society. From the prim and proper to the worst of thugs. One would file a complaint if you said "damn" the other you talk like they talk. If you need to curse to get them to open up, so be it.

    I honestly believe most officers have good intentions. They took the job for the right reasons. Are there officers that do it for a power trip? I'm sure they are out there. We are all human after all.

    I realize most have a negative view of police. Especially when you can find inflammatory articles that focus on the response time of a robbery or burglary. The ball was dropped somewhere down the line. Not making excuses but that is the exception. But let's be honest officer's responding to a burglary call and catching the criminals in the act doesn't make for a good news article. After all that's what we are paid to do.

    To answer the original question: To an extent. I believe that the individual is their own first line of defense. Police can't be everywhere all the time.

    edit: The whole revenue generation argument is always funny to me. I have NEVER and I mean NEVER seen nor heard a superior tell a subordinate to write tickets to get revenue. Hell, half the tickets here are dismissed by the municipal judge anyway. And if you really want to get your feathers ruffled look at the calls for service vs property tax. I think you will see an interesting correlation.
    Thanks for a good honest answer.
    As far as generating revenue, we all know that many many many many many many departments "encourage" the ticket writing.
    To be honest, I think a lot of the tickets are because a ton of cops are really truly terrified of having to deal with a real criminal that wouldnt think twice about roping them to a chair and cutting an ear off. They feel that if they are out writing tickets to the safe people then they can say they are doing their job without ever having to really worry about getting down and dirty.

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  • JamisonFRC
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    When I was a kid I loved cops. My parents taught me that they are there to help. When I was a teenager I hated cops. Not because I thought they were crooked but I was scared I would get busted for acting like an idiot.

    Then college comes around and I grow up. I get a few speeding tickets. Of course I'm pissed in the moment. This is going to cost me money. But I was speeding. I ate my shit sandwich and moved on.

    After a few more years passed I decided to give it a shot. I took the test, passed the extensive background check and started the academy. I've been on over eight years. I've been a field training officer, detective, bike patrol (not motors, forget that noise!) firearms instructor, etc.

    I've seen other officers be abrasive to citizens. I won't say "asshole" because I don't think it went quite that far. Does it happen? No doubt. We deal with the whole spectrum of society. From the prim and proper to the worst of thugs. One would file a complaint if you said "damn" the other you talk like they talk. If you need to curse to get them to open up, so be it.

    I honestly believe most officers have good intentions. They took the job for the right reasons. Are there officers that do it for a power trip? I'm sure they are out there. We are all human after all.

    I realize most have a negative view of police. Especially when you can find inflammatory articles that focus on the response time of a robbery or burglary. The ball was dropped somewhere down the line. Not making excuses but that is the exception. But let's be honest officer's responding to a burglary call and catching the criminals in the act doesn't make for a good news article. After all that's what we are paid to do.

    To answer the original question: To an extent. I believe that the individual is their own first line of defense. Police can't be everywhere all the time.

    edit: The whole revenue generation argument is always funny to me. I have NEVER and I mean NEVER seen nor heard a superior tell a subordinate to write tickets to get revenue. Hell, half the tickets here are dismissed by the municipal judge anyway. And if you really want to get your feathers ruffled look at the calls for service vs property tax. I think you will see an interesting correlation.
    Last edited by JamisonFRC; 05-23-2013, 11:58 AM.

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  • ceyko
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    Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
    David, CJ, Phaux, and several others have been on a ride along with me, and a few others have been with Jimmy. If you want to see how things really work, and the good that the service profession does, just try one out for yourself.
    This will turn into a tail chasing scenario. BTW, just because I'm not all swinging from LEOs nuts does not mean I do not appreciate them. Just age is teaching me a few things that the Andy Griffith show forgot to include.

    Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
    I'll tell you the same thing I've said before. If you think that finding a crime in progress is that easy in a big black and white car, just come out and show me how to do it, because I think they forgot to teach crime divining in the academy.

    My point is, known problems are very high in certain areas. Why avoid them? Is it containment? Is it less illegal if they do it in those areas? Meanwhile, a 1001 minor things are being ticketed. It makes good business sense to do things this way. It does make me wonder if a lot of cops would rather pick on mostly law abiding citizens for their money; as opposed to taking the fight directly to the dealers, and other places that law abiding citizens generally try to avoid.

    Trust me, I'm not so bitter that I do not recognize the work that goes into it. This is not a jab at individual LEOs. It's jabs and questioning "policies" again.

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