Originally posted by 03trubluGT
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Guest repliedI guess when I start defending crooked auto part store managers, Al starts defending crooked commercial real estate brokers, and Brent starts defending crooked high end restaurant kitchen salesmen we can just say "there's bad apples everywhere!" and pretend like that is some sort of goofball counterpoint.
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Originally posted by bcoop View PostYou are delusional. You say there like the ginger bitch you are, and tried I play nice by asking what I do for living. I was thoroughly disappointed. You said (online), that you were going to kick my ass. Instead, you tried to suck my cock. I don't roll that way, fag.
Again, you could have accepted the challenge or deflect.
I see your habit of taking the deflect path continues.
Have a great day!
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Originally posted by ceyko View PostYes, that's one of the things I can't understand.
Easy to find police (what I'll call) picking on motorists and other easy prey for tickets.
However, meanwhile there are hundreds/thousands of hoods that have serious crime problems and the police won't enter them or rarely do. I do not really understand why these areas are not patrolled/watched non-stop. i.e. the known one about a few blocks from the White House being a crime area.
In fairness there are 3 areas that are f'ed up in my opinion. It could be argued that Police forces are the smallest of the 3. In my opinion the f'ed up areas are (in order)...
1. Prison System (Don't get me started - recycled thugs that are better than when they went in at being criminals. No discipline, better quality of life than a lot of military or even hardworking civilians...etc...etc)
2. Court System
3. Law Enforcement
Hell, at the end of the day what we dislike most about police (generally speaking) is...(in no particular order)
1. Dickhead cops
2. Their policies
a. Concern about their policies directly affecting our rights
3. Their real and perceived inadequacies
Generally speaking, if 1 and 2 from the first list worked better - LEOs (standard ones that we want to like) would be more effective overall.
However, the ones out in the shit are probably arresting people they've arrested 3+ times before for the same shit or worst. (probably a whole lot more)
I think it is arguable that a lot of problems are symptoms of Court/Prison systems being a severe problem.
Sorry - that was longer than intended.
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Originally posted by QIK46 View Postnot really. police are usually there after the fact. in places like chicago etc the police wont step up and do their jobs they let the crooks do as they wish so they wont get shot or in harms way. from what i see the police are usually more interested in making money than fighting crime.
I've got a Factory Five project I've been wanting to start. Can you let me in on how to make money off of crime?
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Originally posted by ceyko View PostI presumed you would answer like this, since it is a viable defense. My opinion/post still stands. YOU do not defend it as "what is an officer to do?" type stance. It comes across more as a "Hell yeah! That's policy!"
I really wish I could remember the one that changed my opinion of you - but I can't.
I relate policing with teaching and any other thing related to government work. A bunch of dumb asses that are probably corrupt or want to be corrupted for financial gain write "policy" (rules, regulations, laws, SOP...whatever). There will be numerous problems, but you seem to have more of the hell yeah approach.
I trust a few of the people that defend you, and I really do not want to believe you're a prick. Hell, you never seemed like one until you became the target of a few other members.
Anyway, that's my input on it. I'm sure you'll lose sleep over it.
I know there are officers that enjoy exerting authority, but it's the responsibility of tenured officers to take note and try to teach the young ones how to do the job responsibly and honorably.
There are bad apples in ANY profession, so why should policing be any different? We are working with humans, and anything of that nature is going to have flaws. There is no perfect pre-hire screening process that will weed out every flawed candidate.
You MUST understand that I do have a right to take liberties here on the board, as not everything I post is meant to be taken as gospel. I do use a LOT of satire, sarcasm, and humor since I really can't do it at work.
If someone asks a point blank question, I try to answer it as best and as honest as possible.
Hell, I've said on the board I've smoked weed, and the truth is I've never even put a cigarette to my mouth. I abhor smoking. I think it's nasty, and I've never worked a bar job because of it.
I'd say 99% of the people on this board are good people, but you can't take everything they say as indicative of their true personality.
David, CJ, Phaux, and several others have been on a ride along with me, and a few others have been with Jimmy. If you want to see how things really work, and the good that the service profession does, just try one out for yourself.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by bcoop View PostInstead, you tried to suck my cock. I don't roll that way, fag.
I guess we don't have to argue over who gets the mouth and who gets the ass. We might as well go for an Eiffel Tower while we're at it.
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Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Postand Mr. Cooper because he says that I backed down from him at Dino's when that wasn't the case.
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Originally posted by QIK46 View Postnot really. police are usually there after the fact. in places like chicago etc the police wont step up and do their jobs they let the crooks do as they wish so they wont get shot or in harms way. from what i see the police are usually more interested in making money than fighting crime.
Easy to find police (what I'll call) picking on motorists and other easy prey for tickets.
However, meanwhile there are hundreds/thousands of hoods that have serious crime problems and the police won't enter them or rarely do. I do not really understand why these areas are not patrolled/watched non-stop. i.e. the known one about a few blocks from the White House being a crime area.
In fairness there are 3 areas that are f'ed up in my opinion. It could be argued that Police forces are the smallest of the 3. In my opinion the f'ed up areas are (in order)...
1. Prison System (Don't get me started - recycled thugs that are better than when they went in at being criminals. No discipline, better quality of life than a lot of military or even hardworking civilians...etc...etc)
2. Court System
3. Law Enforcement
Hell, at the end of the day what we dislike most about police (generally speaking) is...(in no particular order)
1. Dickhead cops
2. Their policies
a. Concern about their policies directly affecting our rights
3. Their real and perceived inadequacies
Generally speaking, if 1 and 2 from the first list worked better - LEOs (standard ones that we want to like) would be more effective overall.
However, the ones out in the shit are probably arresting people they've arrested 3+ times before for the same shit or worst. (probably a whole lot more)
I think it is arguable that a lot of problems are symptoms of Court/Prison systems being a severe problem.
Sorry - that was longer than intended.
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not really. police are usually there after the fact. in places like chicago etc the police wont step up and do their jobs they let the crooks do as they wish so they wont get shot or in harms way. from what i see the police are usually more interested in making money than fighting crime.
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Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostIf all we have is law (which policies are derived from), then what are officers to do? If someone violates policy or law, they are subject to discipline or legal ramifications. Joe Citizen isn't subject to Federal Civil Rights Violations like officers are. That is basically a legal double jeopardy.
And, there are policies I don't defend. Just like Alan's incorrect statement that I defend "all" officers. There have been plenty of chicken shit actions by officers that I have not agreed with.
If you care to see it as one sided, then that is your right. But, it doesn't make it correct.
I really wish I could remember the one that changed my opinion of you - but I can't.
I relate policing with teaching and any other thing related to government work. A bunch of dumb asses that are probably corrupt or want to be corrupted for financial gain write "policy" (rules, regulations, laws, SOP...whatever). There will be numerous problems, but you seem to have more of the hell yeah approach.
I trust a few of the people that defend you, and I really do not want to believe you're a prick. Hell, you never seemed like one until you became the target of a few other members.
Anyway, that's my input on it. I'm sure you'll lose sleep over it.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by 03trubluGT View PostEveryone?
You're an idiot.
Just you, because you don't know when to shut your pie hole, and Mr. Cooper because he says that I backed down from him at Dino's when that wasn't the case.
Hell, I'd be tempted to take you both on at the same time.
Take us both at the same time, eh? I'm going to start calling you fingercuffs.
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Originally posted by talisman View PostYou've got quite the definition of e-thug, the way you go around wanting to fight everyone who laughs at you.
You're an idiot.
Just you, because you don't know when to shut your pie hole, and Mr. Cooper because he says that I backed down from him at Dino's when that wasn't the case.
Hell, I'd be tempted to take you both on at the same time.
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