A follow up poll.

[Chas_svo]

I like the box analogy. Most likely the "empty" box is actually filled with air. You can't see it, or prove it, but you have "faith" in what science has taught you, that even the empty box, because of earth's atmosphere. It's made up of nitrogen, oxygen, and some myriad of other gasses. I know that it is true...because I read it in a book written by men, with no claim of a higher entity.


Or it has some cat in it, and with no air holes, the world is a better place.

[racrguy]

HA! you are so full of shit! you have an attitude just like you do in the theology and political forums too! im surprised you can even breathe you do so much masterdebation!

Hmm. Aight then. whatever.

[Damnittsteve]

I just happened to refresh and see your response. I don't have an attitude on the subject, you're just worthless.

HA! you are so full of shit! you have an attitude just like you do in the theology and political forums too! im surprised you can even breathe you do so much masterdebation!

[racrguy]

lolz. mr quick reply has a tude on this subject hahahha

I just happened to refresh and see your response. I don't have an attitude on the subject, you're just worthless.

[Damnittsteve]

It's above your thinking skills. Vote or not, then fuck off.

lolz. mr quick reply has a tude on this subject hahahha

[racrguy]

why do you care?

It's above your thinking skills. Vote or not, then fuck off.

[Damnittsteve]

why do you care?

[Baron Von Crowder]

If you don't poke some holes in that box, Schrodinger's cat may or may not end up dying.

Just sayin'

I was hoping someone would catch the reference.

[likeitfast55]

This is a very relevant discussion. My son and I were having this very same debate the other night. I grew up in a very strict catholic household. I went to private catholic schools and an all boys cathedral prep run by the brothers of the sacred heart. Mass every morning with a Theology class alongside math, English etc.
Given that my major in college was science. I believe in what can be proven or shown as a constant in our world. We raised our boys to decide for themselves their own spiritual path without the brainwashing.

The real question we boiled down to is, ---As a society, have we outgrown or evolved past our religious past?

http://www.ted.com/conversations/3523/have_we_outgrown_our_belief_s.html

I believe that we have.

That box contains the Ennis High School Who's Who book we all know exists.

[Chili]

I choose to abstain from the poll because I do not feel the options presented are sufficient to categorize beliefs. IMO it should be:

• I believe in a specific "higher power".
• I do not believe in a specific "higher power" but do believe that a "higher power" of some sort exists.
• I believe it's possible that a "higher power" exists, but that there is not enough evidence to be certain.
• I do not believe there is any such thing as a "higher power".
• Evil Jose is my favorite moderator.

Fuck your poll!

[Baba Ganoush]

I'm not certain if there is a god, but some days I KNOW there is someone watching out for me. So I answered yay. It could be a buddy that has passed that saves my ass, or some wondering spirit, but I always say "thank god!".

[idrivea4banger]

Well I guess I still can't vote then. Its a good question and even with all the insight on both sides of the topic at hand, i can't agree to either answers. Interesting topic though, especially for me.

[bluecollar]

Well, lets try a different way.

Here is a box. What is inside that box? Is nothing inside that box, or is something inside that box? If I tell you something is in this box, and you belive it, then you would say yes. Right? What if you don’t believe me, and you think that there isnt anything in the box. You would say no, right? Well what about those of us that would think " why is the box all wrapped up, if there isnt anything in it? " Should we say that no, there isnt anything in that box, or should we say yes, there is something inside that box?

We cant open that box and find out for sure either way. The doubt that someone would wrap up an empty box is why I say you would say yes, even though none of us will ever know for sure.

If you don't poke some holes in that box, Schrodinger's cat may or may not end up dying.

Just sayin'

[racrguy]

So my question does hold some merit then?!

Not really, the only options that exist without some sort of mind game are represented in the poll.