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  • slow99
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    Originally posted by Trip McNeely View Post
    Might want to watch this closely. Heads up.
    Yep. All I do is follow news all day, I saw it when it broke. Thank you though.

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  • SBFORDTECH
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    Originally posted by Denny View Post
    The dumbasses on WBAP were calling in and saying it is because of fracing. Do they not realize tht the earth's crust is a lot deeper than the oil and gas companies go? We're not causing shit. The fucking plates move. Get over it!
    True Vertical Depth on most of the wells in North Texas is around 2 miles up from where these quakes are originating from. Thats all i got.

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  • Trip McNeely
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    Originally posted by slow99 View Post
    I hope to know more details next week, but I know some of the names would be:

    Kodiak
    Continental
    Whiting
    Triangle

    I know it would involve some private companies as well ... which I have no idea how I'd dig into at this point - I'll have to get creative.
    Might want to watch this closely. Heads up.

    Shares Of Bakken Oil Producers Plunge After US Warning
    by Reuters
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    Thursday, January 02, 2013

    NEW YORK, Jan 2 (Reuters) - Shares of Whiting Petroleum Corp , Continental Resources Inc and other top crude oil producers in the Bakken shale formation plunged on Thursday after the U.S. government said oil produced there may be extra flammable.

    The warning came three days after a BNSF train carrying crude oil collided in eastern North Dakota with another train carrying grain. The resulting explosion led to the temporary evacuation of a nearby town and added to the growing concern about the safety of oil-by-rail shipments.

    Last July a runaway oil train, which originated in North Dakota, derailed and exploded in a small Quebec town, killing 47 people.

    Oil extracted from the Bakken, a vast rock formation underneath North Dakota and Montana, "may be more flammable than traditional heavy crude oil," the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, part of the U.S. Department of Transportation, said on Thursday.

    Whiting & Continental, the largest Bakken producers, saw their shares fall more than 3.5 percent after the announcement. Shares of Oasis Petroleum Inc, Kodiak Oil & Gas Corp and Northern Oil & Gas Inc saw similar drops.

    Crude oil prices also fell, contributing to the decline.

    The U.S. government's warning should come as no surprise considering refineries and other oil buyers value the high energy content of Bakken crude oil, said Ron Ness, the head of the North Dakota Petroleum Council, a trade group for oil producers.

    "I don't think there's any surprise that Bakken crude oil is the highest quality crude oil available and it has more of those high-end components that you're looking for in a top-shelf crude oil," Ness said.

    Ness said Whiting and other producers he represents follow current federal standards for oil-by-rail shipment. He said the U.S. government should consider updating transportation regulations that currently put crude oil in the same category as ammonia and other chemicals for safety standards.

    Oil producers are not responsible for their product once it is loaded onto railcars, a process that typically comes as sale of the oil is finalized. Logistics companies often buy oil from producers and arrange to have it shipped via rail or other means, before selling it to the end user.

    The oil involved in the Monday crash was loaded onto the train in Fryburg, North Dakota, and was headed nearly 1,300 miles (2,092 km) to Hayti, Missouri.

    Sources familiar with the loading operations told Reuters on Tuesday that Houston-based logistics company Great Northern Midstream loaded the crude at Fryburg, and it was to be unloaded at Marquis Energy's storage terminal and barge loading facility at Hayti, along the Mississippi River.

    "When the train leaves the station, (the oil) is in someone else's hands," Ness said.

    The American Association of Railroads (AAR), an industry trade group for BNSF and others, said it has worked with federal regulators to try and increase railcar design standards and other regulations. Railways do not inspect material they ship, and simply transport it from one location to another.

    A member of the National Transportation Safety Board said on Tuesday that railcars involved in the crash were all older types that do not meet the latest industry safety standards.
    - See more at: http://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/....AhnhX825.dpuf

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  • stevo
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    "You might think you were in Iraq or Afghanistan," said Greg Morrison, of Reno. "It feels like a semi truck hitting your house with a bomb going off."

    Another resident said the most powerful earthquake so far, a 3.6, had opened up a crack in her ceiling some four feet long. Yet another claimed that every toilet in her home had developed fine cracks. Tracy Sutton, a realtor in Azle, feared the quakes may depress home prices in the area. "I've had two people tell me they want to go elsewhere because of what they've heard."
    for fucks sake...

    Stevo

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  • Trip McNeely
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    Earthquakes have nothing to do with the actual frac'ing process. These anti people are ignorant, and don't understand anything of the process. They got guys like Josh Fox telling them lies and bullshit. However, recycling of frac and production water is the sign of the times. Texas doesn't do it because the TRRC doesn't mandate it...yet. Injection wells is most likely what is causing them, and there are a lot of them in the Barnett, I know from personal experience. We've never had an earthquake in PA because they either truck the water to OH, or recycle it. Injection Wells are banned here.

    Watch the movie Frack Nation, I highly recommend it.

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  • Rick Modena
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    I guess us City Folks, just don't get it...

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  • cobrajet69
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    Originally posted by 01vnms4v View Post
    Railroads can't cause earthquakes
    ... and the Railroad Commission has nothing to do with Rail Roads.

    These "earthquakes" are actually due to the fact that people in Azle are so overweight, they are causing the earth to wobble.
    Murica m`fukrs!



    David

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  • Strychnine
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    Originally posted by Country cracker View Post
    Well the railroad commission held a town meeting for an hour and a half and didn't say 1 word. What a huge waste of fucking time. It was just citizens voicing their opinions.


    Fear, Home Damage, and Dismayingly Few Answers at Townhall on Azle Earthquakes

    By Brantley Hargrove Fri., Jan. 3 2014 at 10:00 AM


    The Azle High auditorium was filled near to capacity Thursday evening with an occasionally raucous crowd that demanded answers state regulators couldn't -- or weren't willing -- to answer about why, over the last two months, earthquakes in a seismically silent area have grown in number and intensity.

    Peer-reviewed research out of the University of Texas and SMU have discovered a strong correlation between the quake's epicenters and injection wells, where brine and the chemicals associated with the flowback from hydraulic fracturing are pumped deep underground. They suggest the fluid acts as a lubricant, causing otherwise dormant faulting to slip.

    Officially, the Railroad Commission of Texas won't acknowledge the connection. Commissioner David Porter told the crowd that his agency, which regulates injection wells, would study the matter to better understand the cause of the seismic swarms, and cautioned them against believing everything they read in the papers.

    Parker County Judge Mark Riley suggested Porter expedite whatever study the commission needed to undertake to "ease (the) frustration" of an anxious public.

    From the outset, Porter made clear that the forum was for residents of the area to share their experiences, not for answering their questions, of which they had many: Who's going to pay for the damage to my home? Is the buried pipeline nearby in danger of rupturing? Should I move? What could this mean for my water well?

    The stories they told were strikingly similar -- cracks spreading through their homes, their foundations. Shaking accompanied by a thunderous boom. An unease at night, and a lingering suspicion that the next big one is imminent.

    "You might think you were in Iraq or Afghanistan," said Greg Morrison, of Reno. "It feels like a semi truck hitting your house with a bomb going off."

    Another resident said the most powerful earthquake so far, a 3.6, had opened up a crack in her ceiling some four feet long. Yet another claimed that every toilet in her home had developed fine cracks. Tracy Sutton, a realtor in Azle, feared the quakes may depress home prices in the area. "I've had two people tell me they want to go elsewhere because of what they've heard."

    They approached the microphone, one after another, with many more waiting to speak when the public comment session came to an end.

    State Representative Lon Burnam channeled the suspicion voiced by some of the speakers that the Railroad Commission could not be counted on to hold the industry responsible. "We, as elected officials, need to be more accountable to the citizens of Texas," he said, encouraging Porter to schedule another hearing soon, where questions might find answers.

    "I've talked to the state geologist to get some studies formed to make sure we have the evidence we need," Porter said.

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  • BP
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    Originally posted by 01vnms4v View Post
    Railroads can't cause earthquakes
    Between them and SpaceX my office gets rattled 10+ times a week. They definitely can make they earthquake.

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  • Sean88gt
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    Originally posted by Chas_svo View Post
    Hard to believe someone hadn't doused that asshole and lit him on fire...

    That would be good for children and adults.
    Use bacon grease.

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  • 01vnms4v
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    Railroads can't cause earthquakes

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  • Chas_svo
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    Originally posted by Strychnine View Post
    But Michael Moore said I could light my tap water on fire! Won't somebody please think of the children?!
    Hard to believe someone hadn't doused that asshole and lit him on fire...

    That would be good for children and adults.

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  • Ruffdaddy
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    It's exactly what kills all credibility to their complaints.

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  • Strychnine
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    Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
    As is usually the case, ignorance is the biggest issue at play here. People buy into fear but rarely seek to learn what actually goes on because they enjoy the feeling of runaway panic.

    But Michael Moore said I could light my tap water on fire! Won't somebody please think of the children?!

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  • Sean88gt
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    Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
    Lol at comparing a engine with 100s of precision parts to a geological formation. Plus, there is already water in most of those formations.

    Injection wells are nothing like draining oil from an engine and replacing it with water.
    As is usually the case, ignorance is the biggest issue at play here. People buy into fear but rarely seek to learn what actually goes on because they enjoy the feeling of runaway panic.

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