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Anybody else, starting to sense the Ferguson Cop shooting might be excessive force ?

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    • Initial reports say the vigil candles started the fire but I haven't seen much since. The locals are of course in a uproar over it.
      "It's another burrito, it's a cold Lone Star in my hand!"

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      • That's hot.
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        • Originally posted by dee View Post
          Initial reports say the vigil candles started the fire but I haven't seen much since. The locals are of course in a uproar over it.
          No it was the white man. No way it could've been tall skinny candles left to burn unattended. Time to loot another local business to get justice.

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          • Huh, that's fitting.

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            • Now we got White candles burning black road side vigils?
              Non tapatalk Sig so the butt hurt va-JJs can stop crying about not being able to turn it off.

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              • And...there goes Brown's and "witnesses" side of the story:

                Police Officer in Ferguson Is Said to Recount a Struggle
                By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MATT APUZZO and JULIE BOSMANOCT. 17, 2014

                WASHINGTON — The police officer who fatally shot Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., two months ago has told investigators that he was pinned in his vehicle and in fear for his life as he struggled over his gun with Mr. Brown, according to government officials briefed on the federal civil rights investigation into the matter.

                The officer, Darren Wilson, has told the authorities that during the scuffle, Mr. Brown reached for the gun. It was fired twice in the car, according to forensics tests performed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The first bullet struck Mr. Brown in the arm; the second bullet missed.

                The forensics tests showed Mr. Brown’s blood on the gun, as well as on the interior door panel and on Officer Wilson’s uniform. Officer Wilson told the authorities that Mr. Brown had punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck.

                A detail from a report showing the entry, and re-entry and exit wounds from six bullets.Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Was Struck at Least 6 Times

                This is the first public account of Officer Wilson’s testimony to investigators, but it does not explain why, after he emerged from his vehicle, he fired at Mr. Brown multiple times. It contradicts some witness accounts, and it will not calm those who have been demanding to know why an unarmed man was shot a total of six times. Mr. Brown’s death continues to fuel anger and sometimes-violent protests.

                In September, Officer Wilson appeared for four hours before a St. Louis County grand jury, which was convened to determine whether there is probable cause that he committed a crime. Legal experts have said that his decision to testify was surprising, given that it was not required by law. But the struggle in the car may prove to be a more influential piece of information for the grand jury, one that speaks to Officer Wilson’s state of mind, his feeling of vulnerability and his sense of heightened alert when he killed Mr. Brown.

                Police officers typically have wide latitude to use lethal force if they reasonably believe that they are in imminent danger.

                The officials said that while the federal investigation was continuing, the evidence so far did not support civil rights charges against Officer Wilson. To press charges, the Justice Department would need to clear a high bar, proving that Officer Wilson willfully violated Mr. Brown’s civil rights when he shot him.

                The account of Officer Wilson’s version of events did not come from the Ferguson Police Department or from officials whose activities are being investigated as part of the civil rights inquiry.

                In the many accounts of Mr. Brown’s death, the most potent imagery has come from his final moments, when he and Officer Wilson faced each other on Canfield Drive. Some witnesses have said that he appeared to be surrendering with his hands in the air as he was hit with the fatal gunshots. Others have said that Mr. Brown was moving toward Officer Wilson when he was killed.

                Few witnesses had perfect vantage points for the fight in the car, which occurred just after noon on Aug. 9. Mr. Brown was walking down the middle of the street with a friend, Dorian Johnson, when Officer Wilson stopped his S.U.V., a Chevy Tahoe, to order them to the sidewalk.
                Within seconds, the encounter turned into a physical struggle, as the officer and Mr. Brown became entangled through the open driver’s-side window.

                Why did the police shoot an unarmed black teenager in a St. Louis suburb, and what has unfolded since then? Here’s what you need to know about the situation in Missouri.

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                One witness, Piaget Crenshaw, said later that while she could not see clearly, it appeared Mr. Brown was “trying to flee.” Another witness, Tiffany Mitchell, said that she had watched with alarm from a close distance and that as the two briefly struggled, “Michael was pulling off and the cop was trying to pull him in.”

                Michael T. Brady, who lives nearby, said that the altercation was “something strange,” but that he could not tell exactly what was happening. “I can’t say whether he was punching the officer or whatever,” Mr. Brady said. “But something was going on in that window, and it didn’t look right.”

                However, Mr. Johnson’s description of the scuffle is detailed and specific, and directly contradicts what Officer Wilson has told the authorities.

                Mr. Johnson has said that Officer Wilson was the aggressor, backing up his vehicle and opening the door, which hit Mr. Johnson and Mr. Brown and then bounced back.

                “He just reached his arm out the window and grabbed my friend around his neck, and he was trying to choke my friend,” Mr. Johnson told reporters after the shooting. “He was trying to get away, and the officer then reached out and grabbed his arm to pull him inside the car.”

                Officer Wilson then drew his weapon, Mr. Johnson said, and threatened to shoot.

                The idea that the officer grabbed Brown and pulled him through the window is beyond a farce.

                “In the same moment, the first shot went off,” he said. “We looked at him. He was shot. There was blood coming from him. And we took off running.”

                Darren Wilson, the officer who shot Mr. Brown, at a City Council meeting in Ferguson, Mo., in February. Credit Uncredited/City of Ferguson, via Associated Press
                Never, Mr. Johnson said, did Mr. Brown reach for the officer’s weapon.

                The officials briefed on the case said the forensic evidence gathered in the car lent credence to Officer Wilson’s version of events. According to his account, he was trying to leave his vehicle when Mr. Brown pushed him back in. Once inside the S.U.V., the two began to fight, Officer Wilson told investigators, and he removed his gun from the holster on his right hip.

                Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County Police Department has said in interviews that Officer Wilson was “pushed back into the car” by Mr. Brown and “physically assaulted.” The department is conducting the local investigation into Mr. Brown’s death.

                Spokesmen for the F.B.I. and the Justice Department declined to comment.

                In an interview, Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for the Brown family, dismissed Officer Wilson’s account of what happened in the S.U.V. that day.

                “What the police say is not to be taken as gospel,” Mr. Crump said, adding that Officer Wilson should be indicted by the grand jury and his case sent to trial. “He can say what he wants to say in front of a jury. They can listen to all the evidence and the people can have it transparent so they know that the system works for everybody.”

                He added: “The officer’s going to say whatever he’s going to say to justify killing an unarmed kid. Right now, they have this secret proceeding where nobody knows what’s happening and nobody knows what’s going on. No matter what happened in the car, Michael Brown ran away from him.”

                The grand jury has been meeting in Clayton, Mo., since Aug. 20. Robert P. McCulloch, the St. Louis County prosecutor, has said that he expects a decision on probable cause by mid-November.
                The man who fatally shot a teenager in Missouri in August has told investigators that he feared for his life, according to officials.
                "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                • Oh no , say it isn't so. All those monday morning quarterbacks and internet experts had it wrong ? No way, its the internet, they surely didn't pre-judge anyone.
                  When he is absolved of any wrong doing, they will burn that place down.

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                  • huh? ain't nobody got time fo' dat no mo', we payin' attention to ebolas!
                    http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/...iversal-truth/

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                    • Were the shots fired into the front or back of Brown? After he beat up the cop and was away from the vehicle, was he running away and got shot in the back or was he running back toward the cop? I mean, that's the whole Trayvon deal right?? - Trayvon beat up Zimmerman but then got shot after Zimmerman got his ass beat.

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                      • All shots in front
                        Non tapatalk Sig so the butt hurt va-JJs can stop crying about not being able to turn it off.

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                        • Originally posted by petyweestraw View Post
                          All shots in front
                          Then there should be a civil suit against Holder and the other "leaders" for ruining Wilson's career/life. Holder's statement below is BS, because they have already publicly indited Wilson with their speech/actions.

                          5. Holder is watching Missouri before making a decision on charges in the Michael Brown shooting.
                          He said if Darren Wilson, the officer who shot and killed Brown in Ferguson, isn't indicted, he'd first want to see whether Missouri's efforts were "adequate."
                          "I think what we'll have to do, as we always do in a civil rights investigation from a federal perspective, is look at what the state has done and then make a determination as to whether or not the state investigation was adequate," Holder said.

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                          • He should have filmed and complied. Thats the arrestees fault all day long. Im sure the judge accepted that case and case closed. Sounds like a last ditch effort to make Officer Wilson look bad since the Brown group has nothig else and knows the shooting was legit.

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                            • Originally posted by houstondallas View Post
                              He should have filmed and complied. Thats the arrestees fault all day long. Im sure the judge accepted that case and case closed. Sounds like a last ditch effort to make Officer Wilson look bad since the Brown group has nothig else and knows the shooting was legit.
                              You aren't biased at all, are you? How is it that guy's fault? What are the particulars of the situation? Without knowing that, how can you say he should comply?

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