Houston deputy gunned down while fueling in uniform

[Tremor14]

This is exactly correct. Make them pay you what you want. Unionized labor tries to do the same but only succeeds in sheltering lazy fucks.

to a degree, but i only know of a few hands that i have worked with who only receive the standard journeyman pay scale, if you are worth a fuck you negotiate your own pay.

[abecx]

there is an ever-elusive happy medium between slave wages and fairyland utopian rainbow stew for those who aren't as intelligent as people like you.

While I appreciate this comment and I have heard it a lot, but I don't think or feel I am any more intelligent than my peers, maybe a little more harder working and ability to put the companies needs ahead of my own needs ( aka I will do what I'm asked even if I disagree and have argued my point ). I always feel the difference between what I make and others, is they simply aren't asking for it. They live in a world where they put a cap on themselves because they are too scared to lose what they have and the only difference from me is I ask and fight for it.

'We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.'

[Broncojohnny]

Had an IT consultant at our company a few years ago. My company liked him and made him an offer, which he immediately turned down. He knew they would come back with another offer and he was right. This happened a few times. He finally accepted when they threw all kinds of bonuses and stock options at him. He worked with us for six months and then left to make more money, ha.

He told me once, "Don't be a wage slave. Be a wage mercenary. If you have good skills, don't take less than you're worth just to keep a check coming in."

That really resonated with me. For years I watched my dad go broke while doing incredible car restoration work that gave his boss a baller lifestyle. The situation was pretty fucked up, but then again my dad never did anything about it.

Oh wait, we were talking about a cop getting murdered by a racist, carry on...

This is exactly correct. Make them pay you what you want. Unionized labor tries to do the same but only succeeds in sheltering lazy fucks.

[slow99]

Dolla dolla bills y'all.

[BLAKE]

A yankee from Minnesota killed the deputy with cans of groceries while defending his 2nd amendment?

Yeah, this could (should) definitely be it's own thread.

[46Tbird]

You have also had the opportunity to catch/ride a well timed wave in technological advance. Which is awesome.

there is an ever-elusive happy medium between slave wages and fairyland utopian rainbow stew for those who aren't as intelligent as people like you.

Had an IT consultant at our company a few years ago. My company liked him and made him an offer, which he immediately turned down. He knew they would come back with another offer and he was right. This happened a few times. He finally accepted when they threw all kinds of bonuses and stock options at him. He worked with us for six months and then left to make more money, ha.

He told me once, "Don't be a wage slave. Be a wage mercenary. If you have good skills, don't take less than you're worth just to keep a check coming in."

That really resonated with me. For years I watched my dad go broke while doing incredible car restoration work that gave his boss a baller lifestyle. The situation was pretty fucked up, but then again my dad never did anything about it.

Oh wait, we were talking about a cop getting murdered by a racist, carry on...

[CexMashean]

A yankee from Minnesota killed the deputy with cans of groceries while defending his 2nd amendment?

[BLAKE]

I think the 2nd amendment thing is clouding the conversation. Unions exist for a reason, and are applicable in certain industries.

When I was in yankeeland (Minnesota) visiting Fitzwell, I had a conversation with a guy that has been a newspaper reporter for almost 20 years. Unfortunate state of that industry notwithstanding, he told me that he wished he had gone to work for the local grocery chain stocking frozen food so he could get his pension at 47. It made me sick. Work a mindless mouth breather job for 30 years or do something rewarding? Seems like a no brainer to me.

Unions serve a purpose, but they breed apathy in career choices.

[CexMashean]

Wait, now it was a mexican 2nd amendment that killed the deputy?

[Cooter]

people are lazy and can't get fired from the post office despite being inept...

people walk up and shoot police officers with legally procured guns...

therefore dissolve all unions and abolish the 2nd amendment?

[Cooter]

the right for people to band together to request more money/better working conditions no longer exists because working conditions and pay scale are "pretty decent these days"?

should we get rid of the right to keep and bear arms because the Brits are no longer lobbing cannon balls at the shore line?

the reason we don't need unions is because we have them...

same way we don't need the 2nd amendment because we have it...

is that such an enormously flawed leap in logic?

can I get a weigh-in from some braniac types? I'll take my spanking if I've earned it

[bcoop]

has the 2nd amendment?

You're comparing apples to paperclips.


Did I wake up in an alternate dimension today? Your argument makes as much sense as lincolnboy speaking about calculus.

[CexMashean]

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The shooter was a mexican working for unions? Or corporations?

[Craizie]

I think unions are still around for the same reasons that they formed originally, employers taking ridiculous advantage of employees. Maybe not to the same level of degree as it once was, but its still an issue. However, I am more apt to put that on the person and not the company at this point at least in the cases I have been through in my life.

I'm with you on this one. It is nearly impossible to get fired from USPS. A person I know, we'll call him John, has been in several at fault wrecks in the company vehicle with nearly no draw backs. He's been fired every single time, but the union fights it and he ends up getting rehired with back pay.

[mstng86]

So corporations killed the deputy? Or was it unions?

I'm so confused.

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