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Originally posted by Broncojohnny View PostThere is a short leap from this point to "well he hasn't killed anyone yet but he says he is going to" and then deadly force becomes justified in any situation where someone is barricaded in a place and talks a big game. To anyone with "common sense" about civil liberties that is a concern.
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Originally posted by Paladin View PostBut does he have a butter knife in his hand? LMAO
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Originally posted by Broncojohnny View PostThere is a short leap from this point to "well he hasn't killed anyone yet but he says he is going to" and then deadly force becomes justified in any situation where someone is barricaded in a place and talks a big game. To anyone with "common sense" about civil liberties that is a concern.
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Originally posted by BLAKE View PostI am far from qualified to comment on constitutional rights in a situation like this.
That said, I think blowing up that A-hole with a bomb bot is about the coolest thing ever.
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Originally posted by Magnus View PostHe was a threat to any officer that would have tried to arrest him. Why would you risk more dying if he wouldn't surrender?
Are they supposed to wait until he comes out shooting, possibly killing more cops, or sit there until he passes out then try to arrest him while he's asleep?
Good kill by the robot.
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I am far from qualified to comment on constitutional rights in a situation like this.
That said, I think blowing up that A-hole with a bomb bot is about the coolest thing ever.
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Originally posted by mardyn View PostNO, I disagree... in this situation, the moment he pulled the trigger and shot the first person, his rights become secondary to those belonging to the rest of us.
His rights only extend to a point where he is not infringing on the rights of others. Once he exceeds those limits... he must be stopped.
I know this is not what the lawsays...but it's what I say.
mardyn
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Originally posted by Nash B. View PostAnd that's a problem. Even after he did everything he did, he still had rights.
NO, I disagree... in this situation, the moment he pulled the trigger and shot the first person, his rights become secondary to those belonging to the rest of us.
His rights only extend to a point where he is not infringing on the rights of others. Once he exceeds those limits... he must be stopped.
I know this is not what the lawsays...but it's what I say.
mardyn
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If it isn't a hostage situation, isn't SWAT called in to eliminate a threat by any means necessary?
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Originally posted by Big A View PostHe had already killed 4 people, and was plenty ready to kill 4 more, is that not considered a threat to you? I mentioned sniper as another already "common" means of taking someone out without direct interaction, to quell those concerned about drones and what not.
He made it clear that he wasn't going alive, pray tell, what would you had them done, sit there patiently until he gets hungry and comes out guns blazing? THe Orlando shooter didn't leave alive, is that a problem in your mind as well?
Are they supposed to wait until he comes out shooting, possibly killing more cops, or sit there until he passes out then try to arrest him while he's asleep?
Good kill by the robot.
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Originally posted by Broncojohnny View PostExactly. And then the question becomes, exactly who was he threatening when he was hiding in the corner of the parking garage? You guys keep bringing up snipers. Aren't snipers typically used in hostage situations where there is a threat to someone?
He made it clear that he wasn't going alive, pray tell, what would you had them done, sit there patiently until he gets hungry and comes out guns blazing? THe Orlando shooter didn't leave alive, is that a problem in your mind as well?
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Originally posted by Nash B. View PostAnd that's a problem. Even after he did everything he did, he still had rights.
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