Should smoking be banned in bars?

[The King]

Actually, it's not. In Dallas and Ft Worth, I don't have options where I can go and bother people with carcinogens.

Non smokers have options. Smokers don't have options. It's not as circular as you think, because it's completely one sided.

Boo-Hoo-Hoo

[mstng86]

No. Because smoking is cool.

Seriously though, it should be up to the bar owner. Like stated before, if a bartender is bitching.....sounds like they didn't think their employment decision through very well. If non-smoking customers are bitching, again, what did you expect? You're in a bar.

TBH, if it was up to the owner, they really would have no choice. If they decided to not have smoking in their establishment that leaves them vulnerable to a huge loss of business. No owner is going to cut his/hers own throat.

[564826]

The moral police is out in full force.
I don't smoke and I don't think that a law should be passed to ban smoking from a private establishment.

[Txstang1]

That's not what the law says now.

I am really just playing devils advocate. I really don't give a shit either way. Just don't come in my home and smoke.

I hear ya

The argument is not about the smokers right to smoke in restaurant/bar it is about the owners right to choose, not to be told by the government either way.

don't go preaching that too much, the anti-smokers dont wanna hear all that. Just about their supposed right to say "hey, we don't want to go in there because of the smoke. It my right to go in any restraurant I want and demand you quit smoking so wencan go in "

Gimme a break

[jdgregory84]

TBH, if it was up to the owner, they really would have no choice. If they decided to not have smoking in their establishment that leaves them vulnerable to a huge loss of business. No owner is going to cut his/hers own throat.

True. I smoke when I go out and drink and I'd be perfectly cool with a patio area outside. That's how a lot of bars on 6th street here in Austin are since you can't smoke in bars...minus the ones that don't care.

[MutherjuggZ]

So bothering every one in an enclosed public establishment with your carcinogens is a right? The right is allowing you to do that in an environment where it doesn't annoy people.

Simple fact is this. If smokers would be more courteous it wouldn't come down to this. Non smokers are expected to respect the fact that smokers smoke, but smokers aren't in turn, expected to respect the clean air request of non smokers. So I say fuck those greedy bastards. Go stink up your own space. Then again, I think it should solely be up the the decision of the establishment owners and no one else.

If I'm going to a place that I KNOW is a smoking establishment, and I choose to go anyway, I don't bitch because it's a place I decided to be.

[clevelandkid]

I have to say, poll results thus far have surprised me.

I figured you were smarter than to use some dumbass poll as "proof" or "evidence" as to what people want. Polls can be done to show any side, of any argument. They hold no water at all. It's all about their sampling.

Looks like you were right.

In all seriousness, I'm a little surprised at the results too. Just out of curiosity, I'd like to see the % of smokers here too, but this topic doesn't really need a third thread.

[racrguy]

Non smoker, voted no. I don't need the government telling me, or anyone that owns a business what kind of patrons they will allow and what actions they partake in.

[MutherjuggZ]

Non smoker, voted no. I don't need the government telling me, or anyone that owns a business what kind of patrons they will allow and what actions they partake in.

If only they'd ease up and let those brothels operate in full swing....

[Fern]

No.

[caddyjack]

I voted no....because I only smoke when I drink.

<---- Selfish asshole

this

[mustangguy289]

So bothering every one in an enclosed public establishment with your carcinogens is a right? The right is allowing you to do that in an environment where it doesn't annoy people.

You have a right not to go that establishment don't you?

[caddyjack]

I think this is something that should be up to the owner... why should anyone else have a say about what they allow in their establishment?

you might have regulars who like to smoke and when a city puts out a smoking ban they could risk losing some of their clientele.

When I go out I prefer to go to Addison b/c I can smoke. For me smoking and drinking go hand in hand

[Ruffdaddy]

You have a right not to go that establishment don't you?

Holy shit what an enlightening idea...glad youre the first person to bring that up...again...for the seventeenth time. Haha

[Silverback]

I'm cigarette free now for 45 days, and I say it should be the owner of the establishment's choice.

You don't have to go somewhere if they had a sign on the door that said "Not a smoke free establishment". You also don't have to work there.