The Elephant in the Room

[The King]

he was asked to produce his license which is what he was attempting to do.

Maybe this is what they mean by "white privilege", eh?

The cop didn't ask him to show his weapon. The victim told him he had a gun and a license, then reached for his wallet to get out his driver's license - as directed by the cop.

I have had one ask for my CHL when I wasn't wasn't carrying, but I refrained from schooling him that the law didn't require me to show it under those circumstances. Politeness, works every time for me.

[Rick Modena]

Having carried concealed in a vehicle during traffic stops, I have never been told/asked by the officer to reach for or show the weapon. Rather they only asked where it is.

Yes, this is the only thing I have ever heard from anyone who has a CHL. From what I have heard and experienced is when you show them your DL&CHL they ask where the gun is located. They know you have a clean record if you have a CHL and don't have anything to worry about and as long as you don't reach for your gun, they won't reach for their gun.

The guy in LA was being an asshole and started to reach for his gun, to either defend himself or to chunk it. Both moves were under the "play stupid games" column.

[CexMashean]

Maybe this is what they mean by "white privilege", eh?


The cop didn't ask him to show his weapon. The victim told him he had a gun and a license, then reached for his wallet to get out his driver's license - as directed by the cop.

Is that on recording, or "witness" statement?

[46Tbird]

Having carried concealed in a vehicle during traffic stops, I have never been told/asked by the officer to reach for or show the weapon. Rather they only asked where it is.

Maybe this is what they mean by "white privilege", eh?


The cop didn't ask him to show his weapon. The victim told him he had a gun and a license, then reached for his wallet to get out his driver's license - as directed by the cop.

[naynay]

Having carried concealed in a vehicle during traffic stops, I have never been told/asked by the officer to reach for or show the weapon. Rather they only asked where it is.

he was asked to produce his license which is what he was attempting to do.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Having carried concealed in a vehicle during traffic stops, I have never been told/asked by the officer to reach for or show the weapon. Rather they only asked where it is.

I had one ask me to hand it to him and he put it on the cowl of my truck for the remainder of the stop.

[The King]

Having carried concealed in a vehicle during traffic stops, I have never been told/asked by the officer to reach for or show the weapon. Rather they only asked where it is.

[46Tbird]

In Baton Rouge, they WERE responding to a call of a man waiving his gun outside a convenience store. In the cops' minds, they had a crime to stop. When they arrived, he got confrontational and began resisting arrest - while carrying. All I can say is, that's a really dumb thing to do, and the video shows why.

The Minnesota shooting was just straight up trigger-happy murder. The dude wasn't resisting. He told the cop he had a gun and went to get his license, as the cop had ordered. There was no reason to shoot.

I'm not convinced that black people have more to worry about from cops than their own brethren. But I do think the cops were wrong to shoot in both these cases.

[juiceweezl]

that was tough to watch a man who had a Conceal Carry License get shot 4 times for trying to show the license.

but insensitivity is your strong point mangus.

So he says he has a gun and license to carry but is told not to reach for it, reaches for it anyway, and gets shot. Is that how it went down? If so, seems to me a case of play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[naynay]

you must be in a different room.

of course! im only allowed to post here because i am better at the internet than everyone else!

[naynay]

that was tough to watch a man who had a Conceal Carry License get shot 4 times for trying to show the license.

but insensitivity is your strong point mangus.

[naynay]

that was tough to watch a man who had a Conceal Carry License get shot 4 times for trying to show the license.

but insensitivity is your strong point mangus.

[CexMashean]

This is literally all I know about one of the shootings.

[mstng86]

you must be in a different room.

[juiceweezl]

Simple...stop resisting.