Where to find stock 5.0 rear springs cheap?

[91CoupeMike]

and just because I cant walk away from the stupidty this board knows whom is called 91CoupeMike, tell me this ass end isnt dropping down....



But my demand still stands, dont ever try to infect me with your stupidity by quoting me again.

There is a proper launch. Watch the suspension. And notice the 60ft.

With that said, fuck you.

[Mysticcobrakilla]

This thread has turned into greatness.

[03shadow2v]

he sits when he pees

[Lason]

You don't want the ass to sink

You want the ass to squat enough to grip

Mike Im not going to argue with you. But seriously, your a kid and have alot to learn and its obvious. Nothing wrong with that but stop acting like you know everything, its very annoying. You make me think back when I was your age and I wonder if I was as cocky as you are.

[91CoupeMike]

Mike Im not going to argue with you. But seriously, your a kid and have alot to learn and its obvious. Nothing wrong with that but stop acting like you know everything, its very annoying. You make me think back when I was your age and I wonder if I was as cocky as you are.

I understand your point of view. But just because you're older doesnt make you correct.

You don't want the ass to sink like it would with 4cyl springs. You want it to squat a little. The video you posted was incorrect. You should have known that because it lifted the wheels. It may look cool to lift the wheels and drag the bumper, but that's what slow cars do.

Sqauting isn't sinking, and the video I posted shows that.

People have been running stock v8 springs in the rear and 4cyl fronts for decades now, so your age should have showed an advantage.

I don't know everything, but I'm not an idiot. I'd much rather be a cocky smartass then a dumbass. If I'm wrong I take correction well. No sense in being a jackass for no reason.

[Mysticcobrakilla]

If you're going to take notes, take notes from the best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgm22CShaWM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Lason]

I understand your point of view. But just because you're older doesnt make you correct.

You don't want the ass to sink like it would with 4cyl springs. You want it to squat a little. The video you posted was incorrect. You should have known that because it lifted the wheels. It may look cool to lift the wheels and drag the bumper, but that's what slow cars do.

Sqauting isn't sinking, and the video I posted shows that.

People have been running stock v8 springs in the rear and 4cyl fronts for decades now, so your age should have showed an advantage.

I don't know everything, but I'm not an idiot. I'd much rather be a cocky smartass then a dumbass. If I'm wrong I take correction well. No sense in being a jackass for no reason.

No the video I posted was not wrong, that car obviously hooked and you control front end rising with alot of things, not just stiff ass springs. Front end limiters, valving in the front, preload on the roll bar or link bars, moving ballast and 10,000 other things. That video is just old, back when air bags was the thing to have. But the point was I was trying to show you that the ass doesnt stay put or even rise since you say it doesnt squat. If we didnt want any action then why run shocks at all?

Do you know what happens when you use too stiff of a spring in the rear? It will start to transfer weight, the high spring rate will kick the ass end back up too quick and and unload the tires out of the hole if it even reacts at all which will just blow the tires off right off the bat.

[91CoupeMike]

If you're going to take notes, take notes from the best


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgm22...e_gdata_player

Notice how the rear stays firm? It's going to squat a little because it's a change in motion. Imagine what kind of cluster fuck that would be if the ass sank to the stops. It would have went straight into the wall.

[91CoupeMike]

No the video I posted was not wrong, that car obviously hooked and you control front end rising with alot of things, not just stiff ass springs. Front end limiters, valving in the front, preload on the roll bar or link bars, moving ballast and 10,000 other things. That video is just old, back when air bags was the thing to have. But the point was I was trying to show you that the ass doesnt stay put or even rise since you say it doesnt squat. If we didnt want any action then why run shocks at all?

Do you know what happens when you use too stiff of a spring in the rear? It will start to transfer weight, the high spring rate will kick the ass end back up too quick and and unload the tires out of the hole if it even reacts at all which will just blow the tires off right off the bat.

You have the right idea. The car lifted the wheels. That's not good. You know the term "if you're dragging the bumper, you need a new suspension guy" there's a reason for that.

You want travel in the rear, of course. But you dont want a lot. To much it drags the bumper, and too little or none at all it will blow the tires off.

My point isn't to argue your knowledge.

I'm arguing that you DO NOT want 4cyl springs in the rear, you want them in the front.

[Lason]

perfect writeup.....

http://www.baselinesuspensions.com/info/coilovers.htm

This is one of the things that really throw people off from lack of understanding and can create a difficult installation and traction problems.

For Rear springs I prefer to start with the lightest spring possible that will not coilbind during operation. The reason is b/c under the shock of launching I want the spring to react as quickly as possible and allow the suspension to do it’s thing to maintain traction. If the spring is too stiff then the suspension can not react quick enough and the rear tires can unload. This makes it much more difficult to tune the suspension with shock adjustments because the springs are working against the shock settings.

A lot of cars can start with a 110# spring then go up/down from there once the car is built and tested. Unless the car is over 3500lbs you should not need a spring over 130# so if you have a car that is 3100lbs and your rear springs are more than 110# then you should look at trying softer ones if you haven’t.

[91CoupeMike]

I have read that, acting quickly means it drops and rises back to "normal" or close too as fast as possible? Am I wrong?

Seems that if it drops ass and stays low it would cause problems.

After watching wolfes car make a pass, how much does the ass drop? The car that makes 1.3 60fts the rear end stays firm.

Going to soft is just as bad as to stiff.

[91CoupeMike]

Do you still think 4cyl springs in rear is correct?

Because I have been around mustangs and racing, learning, forgetting, and taking in as much as possible since 2001. I have ALWAYS been told 4cyl springs up front.

[greenbullitt]

My head hurts

[redrocket5.0]

Our purplecar had Wolfe anti roll bar and stock v8 springs, 1.3 to 1.5 60 fts everytime. coilovers in front.

[turbos66coupe]

Its v8s in the rear and 4cyl up front.

The baseline stuff is great knowledge. He also will tell you that setting up a 4link vs a ladder bar vs a mustang 4 link is very different. You want the rear to react but not bottom out . The front lifts due to force put on it through the instant center point. A car that pulls the wheels hooks hard but is not effecent.the rear will squat but you want it to rise again and react to keep the most force on the tires. To stiff it unloads the tires to soft and you pull the wheels. But this is like lason said only one of the many factors that controls this.